Yes, if you or others can come up with additional workable solutions, I'm all for it.
Later - Richard
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, Charles Gould wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Thank you for this explanation, but please do not misunderstand my comments.
> I think that you did a great job, and I said so in my email message.
> I also acknowledge that you are not pressing anyone to do this, and that you are only offering some photos and guidance to anyone who may wish to copy your design, which I admire and appreciate.
> I think that yours is an excellent solution to the problem of sourcing and fitting filters, and I admire the K & N products, and feel that the price is reasonable for lifetime filter. I am only suggesting another alternative method of securing it, which others may follow or disregard, in the same manner that you offered your solution.
> Charles
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:20 PM, richmccolman wrote:
> > Bear in mind that the $70 price for the K&N filter that Bill mentions is a list price. Amazon has them for $42.99 each. The other point I'd like to make is that the K&N is a lifetime filter -- you clean it and then re-oil it over and over again. You should never need to buy another. And K&N filters come highly regarded, as I understand it, for filtering capability along with providing maximum air flow. You will need oil and cleaning solution too, but that stuff will last and last and last.
> > How much do the original NOS air filters for the 600 cars cost -- when you can get them? One seller has them listed for $55 each. I'm sure that that's a fair price, given the scarcity of them, but if you use that as a point of comparison, $42.99 is quite good for lifetime filter, and $70 (only $15 additional compared with the K&N list price) isn't bad, I think. If you figure that a rebuilt engine is going to run you hundreds to thousands of $$$, depending upon the level of work and replacement needed and depending upon whether you hire someone to do it or do it yourself, the protection that a really good filter provides is darn well worth it, IMHO.
> > As far as the level of difficulty in fabricating the spacer, it actually didn't take me but an hour and an half. Granted, I have a metal-cutting band saw and a drill press, but you could do essentially the same work using a jig saw with a metal-cutting blade and a handheld power drill with not much greater investment of time.
> > In the end, I'm not pressing anyone to do the same thing that I did. I merely put the idea out there for anyone who might be interested. Sooner or later, folks' stock filter could deteriorate and need replacement (my stock filter had holes in the filter material), and the supply of NOS filters will eventually become depleted. I suspect that folks will need some options. This happens to be one.
> > Richard
> > --- In
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, "Bill" wrote:
> > > Chas;
> > > Richard does have the original spring clip on behind the spacer. I was
> > > amazed at the cost of the filter, $70.00. Which seems a bit hard to
> > > swallow. I would think there is another filter available for less. Another
> > > suggestion is to remove the paper from the original Honda air filter and
> > > wrap it with foam rubber like used in lawn mowers. It is a whole bunch
> > > cheaper and will work like the original. I'll post a picture later.
> > > Bill
> > > _____
> > > From:
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> > > [mailto:
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] On Behalf Of Chas
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 6:11 AM
> > > To:
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> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Richard - new pics, z600 and K&N filter
> > > While I appreciate the work involved and the desire to create this, it would
> > > just seem so much easier to fabricate one or two spring steel clips much
> > > like the original, but with substantially more depth, so secure the filter
> > > in the same manner as originally designed. If you were concerned about the
> > > depth of the clip, you could make them out of much wider material to ensure
> > > that they did not tip or twist.
> > > Chas
> > > --- In
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> > > , "richmccolman"
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi John -- Yes, I imagine that you could get wood to work, though I'd
> > > personally not be inclined to use it long-term, given that wood, being a
> > > somewhat porous material, can absorb moisture, and can warp. I'm not sure
> > > how big of an issue this would be, but it's something to consider. Perhaps
> > > something like oak would be less prone to that, particularly if you sealed
> > > the wood after cutting it to the correct dimensions.
> > > > One reason why I went with the design that I did was that it allowed me to
> > > tweak the thickness dimension of the spacer. On the other hand, that should
> > > only need to be done once. As I said in one of the pic captions, 1-3/8
> > > inches was the thickness I ended up with. Do note that that thickness is
> > > appropriate if you use the self-adhesive foam gasket that comes with the K&N
> > > filter. The other dimensions are the same as the footprint of the original
> > > Honda 600 filter.
> > > > Richard
> > > > --- In
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> > > , J Graf wrote:
> > > > > Richard, clever idea. Would any block of material the same thickness as
> > > your spacer work, or is there an issue of air flow through your design that
> > > has benefit? I'm thinking of simply cutting a piece of wood .
> > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > > John Graf
> > > > > Paragrafs.com
> > > > > --- In
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> > > , "richmccolman"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi guys - I've uploaded new pics under the photo album
> > > "richmccolman". One image of my z600, and several pics showing the air
> > > filter/cleaner adaptation I did using a K&N HA-6592 reusable air filter
> > > element and a custom-made spacer I made.
> > > > > > > Richard