It cranks over !

geez_tech · Post by **geez_tech** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:13 pm

Yeah!
I finally hooked up the battery and the motor spins over nicely. I
checked the compression and one cylinder is 170 lbs and the other is
160 lbs on a cold engine that hasn't been running for about 4 years now.
Yes, I did squirt some oil into the spark plug holes first since this
has been sitting so long.
Which cylinder is considered #1?
I also decided to check for spark as I have also installed new points
too, but I have no spark, hmmm.
I also dont have any dash warning lights or radio, so I will start
checking my fuses to see if any are blown or if they have proper power
when the key is on. Hopefully it is related. I was hoping to have a oil
pressure light to see if it would go out when I cranked the engine over
as I have also changed the oil and filter on this too.
Is the coil supposed to have 12 volts at it? I'm guessing this may have
a magneto type system in it since it is related to a motorcylce motor
and I dont believe those need 12 volts, just a ground to kill the kill
the ignition when it is turned off.
I still need my accelerator pump diaphragm to re-install the carb and
that should be here next week sometime.
Mike

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:22 am

--- In anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com, "geez_tech"
wrote:
I'm guessing this may have

> a magneto type system in it since it is related to a motorcylce motor
> and I dont believe those need 12 volts, just a ground to kill the kill
> the ignition when it is turned off.
> Mike

Well Mike, you appear to have guessed wrong. The 600 has an alternator,
a rectifier, a set of points and a coil (and no magneto). Yes the
ignition switch suplies 12 volts, and no it does not kill by grounding.
It shuts down just the way a REAL car does, by removing battery voltage
from the circuitry and interrupting the fuel flow through the carb by
turning off the electric pump and allowing the fuel solenoid to close
and shut it off.
Hope that wasn't too preachy,
Mark

friend · Post by **friend** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:43 am

Real car?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Mark
> Sent:
> Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:23 AM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re:
> It cranks over !
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "geez_tech"
> wrote:
> I'm guessing this
> may have
> > a magneto type system in it since it is related to a
> motorcylce motor
> > and I dont believe those need 12 volts, just a
> ground to kill the
> kill
> > the ignition when it is turned
> off.
> > Mike
> Well Mike, you appear to have guessed wrong. The 600
> has an alternator,
> a rectifier, a set of points and a coil (and no
> magneto). Yes the
> ignition switch suplies 12 volts, and no it does not
> kill by grounding.
> It shuts down just the way a REAL car does, by removing
> battery voltage
> from the circuitry and interrupting the fuel flow through
> the carb by
> turning off the electric pump and allowing the fuel solenoid > to close > and shut it off.
> Hope that wasn't too
> preachy,
> Mark

Mike and Tami Speer · Post by **Mike and Tami Speer** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:31 am

Not preachy at all, this will give me a good start today.
Thanks for the help and explanation.
Basically this is just like my air cooled VW then, except the motor is in the wrong spot.
J
Mike

mark cross · Post by **mark cross** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:01 pm

as for the statement about a magneto even the small Honda 50cc bikes
had a true 120 volt alternator that rectifies down to 6volts and uses
the ignition switch to turn off voltage. only thing that realy use
magnetos are lawnmower engines--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com, "geez_tech" wrote:

> Yeah!
> I finally hooked up the battery and the motor spins over nicely. I
> checked the compression and one cylinder is 170 lbs and the other is
> 160 lbs on a cold engine that hasn't been running for about 4 years now.
> Yes, I did squirt some oil into the spark plug holes first since this
> has been sitting so long.
> Which cylinder is considered #1?
> I also decided to check for spark as I have also installed new points
> too, but I have no spark, hmmm.
> I also dont have any dash warning lights or radio, so I will start
> checking my fuses to see if any are blown or if they have proper power
> when the key is on. Hopefully it is related. I was hoping to have a oil
> pressure light to see if it would go out when I cranked the engine over
> as I have also changed the oil and filter on this too.
> Is the coil supposed to have 12 volts at it? I'm guessing this may have
> a magneto type system in it since it is related to a motorcylce motor
> and I dont believe those need 12 volts, just a ground to kill the kill
> the ignition when it is turned off.
> I still need my accelerator pump diaphragm to re-install the carb and
> that should be here next week sometime.
> Mike

roger white · Post by **roger white** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:22 pm

Magnetos are used on most piston powered aircraft engines. Two magnetos per engine, two sparkplugs per cylinder. Dual plugs give the engines 5% more power. They are considered to be more reliable as they will keep the engine running even with a dead battery. I hope thats the last I here of someone badmouthing the mighty magneto. :D
----- Original Message ---- From: mark cross To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:01:33 AM Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: It cranks over !
as for the statement about a magneto even the small Honda 50cc bikes had a true 120 volt alternator that rectifies down to 6volts and uses the ignition switch to turn off voltage. only thing that realy use magnetos are lawnmower engines--- In anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com , "geez_tech" wrote:

> Yeah!
> I finally hooked up the battery and the motor spins over nicely. I > checked the compression and one cylinder is 170 lbs and the other

is

> 160 lbs on a cold engine that hasn't been running for about 4 years

now.

> Yes, I did squirt some oil into the spark plug holes first since

this

> has been sitting so long.
> Which cylinder is considered #1?
> I also decided to check for spark as I have

also installed new points

> too, but I have no spark, hmmm.
> I also dont have any dash warning lights or radio, so I will start > checking my fuses to see if any are blown or if they have proper

power

> when the key is on. Hopefully it is related. I was hoping to have a

oil

> pressure light to see if it would go out when I cranked the engine

over

> as I have also changed the oil and filter on this too.
> Is the coil supposed to have 12 volts at it? I'm guessing this may

have

> a magneto type system in it since it is related to a motorcylce

motor

> and I dont believe those need 12 volts, just a ground to kill the

kill

> the ignition when it is turned off.
> I still need my accelerator pump diaphragm to re-install the carb

and

> that should be here next week sometime.

Mike