Good afternoon Gents,
I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two hrs to pick them up!!
I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be great!!
I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful tips and info I would love the help.
But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me, please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
Thanks For your help in advanced!
Julian Saturno
Some advice would be great!
Re: Some advice would be great!
Julian,
Congrats and good luck with your two 600s!
Here is something to read re: approaching cars that have not run in a while...
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Assessing_ ... chase.html
Steve
Congrats and good luck with your two 600s!
Here is something to read re: approaching cars that have not run in a while...
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Assessing_ ... chase.html
Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Julian
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:47
> PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Some advice
> would be great!
> Good afternoon Gents,
> I am finally going to have some time to work
> on my cars, almost two years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the > coolest cars I've ever seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them > and drove the two hrs to pick them up!!
> I bought them when I was 18
> and didn't have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time > and some cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
> I
> want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to > get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
> Any tips on
> starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be great!!
> I
> Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received some > helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful tips and > info I would love the help.
> But if you don't really have anything
> helpful or positive to say to me, please don't worry about it. I almost didn't > post anything to here again because of my last experience but i figure maybe > things have change.
> So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry
> on the history of these cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own > these cars.
> Thanks For your help in advanced!
> Julian
> Saturno
Re: Some advice would be great!
Julian
I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and information that this forum has. Great bunch.
When you turn it over, does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is way of doing things even before you try to start the car, Sounds like they have been sitting for a long time so there will be no oil on anything. I am sure someone will tell you what you need to do first before trying to start first. Have you set the points and are the pitted bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these cars you can go here and download just about anything you need.
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe there is someone local that can help.
If you try one thing and it does not work than ask.
Good luck
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
From: julian.saturno@...
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
Good afternoon Gents, I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two hrs to pick them up!!
I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be great!!
I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful tips and info I would love the help.
But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me, please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
Thanks For your help in advanced!
Julian Saturno
I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and information that this forum has. Great bunch.
When you turn it over, does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is way of doing things even before you try to start the car, Sounds like they have been sitting for a long time so there will be no oil on anything. I am sure someone will tell you what you need to do first before trying to start first. Have you set the points and are the pitted bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these cars you can go here and download just about anything you need.
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe there is someone local that can help.
If you try one thing and it does not work than ask.
Good luck
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
From: julian.saturno@...
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
Good afternoon Gents, I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two hrs to pick them up!!
I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be great!!
I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful tips and info I would love the help.
But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me, please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
Thanks For your help in advanced!
Julian Saturno
Re: Some advice would be great!
I have some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of oil because it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of times to move the oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start it with the ignition.
It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
Thanks for all the help this far guys!
It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
Thanks for all the help this far guys!
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, TOM THIES wrote:
> Julian
> I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and information that this forum has. Great bunch.
> When you turn it over, does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is way of doing things even before you try to start the car, Sounds like they have been sitting for a long time so there will be no oil on anything. I am sure someone will tell you what you need to do first before trying to start first. Have you set the points and are the pitted bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these cars you can go here and download just about anything you need.
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe there is someone local that can help.
> If you try one thing and it does not work than ask.
> Good luck
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> From: julian.saturno@...
> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
> Good afternoon Gents,
> I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two hrs to pick them up!!
> I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
> I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
> Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be great!!
> I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful tips and info I would love the help.
> But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me, please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
> So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
> Thanks For your help in advanced!
> Julian Saturno
Re: Some advice would be great!
Hello,
My name is Steve and I live in Harrington Washington. I have owned a
'72 600Z coupe and have experience working on them. I know from experience,
the best thing you could do is GET A SHOP MANUAL. You can order a Haynes
from your local NAPA. If you still have problems starting your Honda, get in
touch, maybe I can help. Steve
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Julian"
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:59 PM
To:
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Some advice would be great!
My name is Steve and I live in Harrington Washington. I have owned a
'72 600Z coupe and have experience working on them. I know from experience,
the best thing you could do is GET A SHOP MANUAL. You can order a Haynes
from your local NAPA. If you still have problems starting your Honda, get in
touch, maybe I can help. Steve
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Julian"
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:59 PM
To:
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Some advice would be great!
> I have some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of
> oil because it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of
> times to move the oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start
> it with the ignition.
> It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any
> write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
> I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone
> locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
> Thanks for all the help this far guys!
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, TOM THIES wrote:
>> Julian
>> I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and
>> information that this forum has. Great bunch.
>> When you turn it over, does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is
>> way of doing things even before you try to start the car, Sounds like
>> they have been sitting for a long time so there will be no oil on
>> anything. I am sure someone will tell you what you need to do first
>> before trying to start first. Have you set the points and are the pitted
>> bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these cars
>> you can go here and download just about anything you need.
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html
>> This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe
>> there is someone local that can help.
>> If you try one thing and it does not work than ask.
>> Good luck
>> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>> From: julian.saturno@...
>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
>> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
>> Good afternoon Gents,
>> I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years
>> ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever
>> seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two
>> hrs to pick them up!!
>> I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend
>> on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm
>> ready to start working on them.
>> I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about
>> trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
>> Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be
>> great!!
>> I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received
>> some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful
>> tips and info I would love the help.
>> But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me,
>> please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again
>> because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
>> So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these
>> cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
>> Thanks For your help in advanced!
>> Julian Saturno
> ------------------------------------
Re: Some advice would be great!
Julian you can order and pay for a shop manual but you can down load it for the honda 600 for free from http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html
there is so much info there for the Honda, you should check that site out.
there is so much info there for the Honda, you should check that site out.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Julian
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:59
> PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: Some
> advice would be great!
> I have some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of > oil because it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of times > to move the oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start it with > the ignition.
> It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the
> timing, is there any write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do > this?
> I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there > is anyone locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have > gathered.
> Thanks for all the help this far guys!
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> TOM THIES wrote:
> > Julian
> > I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and > information that this forum has. Great bunch.
> > When you turn it over,
> does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is way of doing things even > before you try to start the car, Sounds like they have been sitting for a long > time so there will be no oil on anything. I am sure someone will tell you what > you need to do first before trying to start first. Have you set the points and > are the pitted bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these > cars you can go here and download just about anything you need.
> http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html
> This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe there is > someone local that can help.
> > If you try one thing and it does not
> work than ask.
> > Good luck
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> From: julian.saturno@...
> > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
> > Good afternoon Gents,
> > I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two > years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever > seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two hrs > to pick them up!!
> > I bought them when I was 18 and didn't
> have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time and some > cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
> > I
> want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to > get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
> > Any
> tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be > great!!
> > I Posted a few years ago asking for information and
> such, and received some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have > some helpful tips and info I would love the help.
> > But if you
> don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me, please don't > worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again because of my last > experience but i figure maybe things have change.
> > So if
> you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these cars, I'm > probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
> Thanks For your help in advanced!
> > Julian
> Saturno
Re: Some advice would be great!
Thanks Steve, I will for sure if i cant get the old thing runin'
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Steve" wrote:
> Hello,
> My name is Steve and I live in Harrington Washington. I have owned a
> '72 600Z coupe and have experience working on them. I know from experience,
> the best thing you could do is GET A SHOP MANUAL. You can order a Haynes
> from your local NAPA. If you still have problems starting your Honda, get in
> touch, maybe I can help. Steve
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Julian"
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:59 PM
> To: Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Some advice would be great!
> > I have some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of
> > oil because it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of
> > times to move the oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start
> > it with the ignition.
> > It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any
> > write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
> > I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone
> > locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
> > Thanks for all the help this far guys!
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, TOM THIES wrote:
> >> Julian
> >> I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and
> >> information that this forum has. Great bunch.
> >> When you turn it over, does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is
> >> way of doing things even before you try to start the car, Sounds like
> >> they have been sitting for a long time so there will be no oil on
> >> anything. I am sure someone will tell you what you need to do first
> >> before trying to start first. Have you set the points and are the pitted
> >> bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these cars
> >> you can go here and download just about anything you need.
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html
> >> This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe
> >> there is someone local that can help.
> >> If you try one thing and it does not work than ask.
> >> Good luck
> >> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >> From: julian.saturno@
> >> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
> >> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
> >> Good afternoon Gents,
> >> I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years
> >> ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever
> >> seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two
> >> hrs to pick them up!!
> >> I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend
> >> on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm
> >> ready to start working on them.
> >> I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about
> >> trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
> >> Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be
> >> great!!
> >> I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received
> >> some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful
> >> tips and info I would love the help.
> >> But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me,
> >> please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again
> >> because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
> >> So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these
> >> cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
> >> Thanks For your help in advanced!
> >> Julian Saturno
> > ------------------------------------
Re: Some advice would be great!
I Have already stumbled upon that website, that is an awesome site!! there is TONS of info to be found!!
I will Definitely utilized the information on there.
I will Definitely utilized the information on there.
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "TOM THIES" wrote:
> Julian you can order and pay for a shop manual but you can down load it for the honda 600 for free from http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html there is so much info there for the Honda, you should check that site out.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Julian
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:59 PM
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Some advice would be great!
> I have some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of oil because it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of times to move the oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start it with the ignition.
> It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
> I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
> Thanks for all the help this far guys!
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, TOM THIES wrote:
> > Julian
> > I dont think there is anywhere else that has the knowledge and information that this forum has. Great bunch.
> > When you turn it over, does it have a spark to the plugs? Also there is way of doing things even before you try to start the car, Sounds like they have been sitting for a long time so there will be no oil on anything. I am sure someone will tell you what you need to do first before trying to start first. Have you set the points and are the pitted bad? Does the timing line up right? If you need a book on these cars you can go here and download just about anything you need.
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Manuals,_b ... ments.html This will help you out a lot. Also where are you located at? maybe there is someone local that can help.
> > If you try one thing and it does not work than ask.
> > Good luck
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > From: julian.saturno@
> > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:47:43 +0000
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Some advice would be great!
> > Good afternoon Gents,
> > I am finally going to have some time to work on my cars, almost two years ago I ran into a craigslist ad selling two of the coolest cars I've ever seen! A 70 Sedan and 72 coupe, I fell in love with them and drove the two hrs to pick them up!!
> > I bought them when I was 18 and didn't have much time or money to spend on them, but I have some free time and some cash to spend now so I'm ready to start working on them.
> > I want to start working on my 72 Coupe, What steps should I go about trying to get it to start?? It turns over but that's about it.
> > Any tips on starting, trouble shooting. Anything and everything would be great!!
> > I Posted a few years ago asking for information and such, and received some helpful and some not so helpful tips. So if you have some helpful tips and info I would love the help.
> > But if you don't really have anything helpful or positive to say to me, please don't worry about it. I almost didn't post anything to here again because of my last experience but i figure maybe things have change.
> > So if you'd like to help a young enthusiast carry on the history of these cars, I'm probably one of the few kids my age who own these cars.
> > Thanks For your help in advanced!
> > Julian Saturno
Re: Some advice would be great!
Here are some things to try for an engine which will not start;
1) squirt some motor oil in each cylinder (1/2 tablespoon is plenty) and perform a compression test. A great reading would be 160 psi on each cylinder
2) turn over the engine until you see the points are closed.
Remove a spark plug, connect the plug wire back onto a new spark plug and hold the threaded portion of the plug against the metal engine block, turn the ignition switch on and crank over the engine. You should see a strong spark jumping across the plug gap. Do the same thing for the other spark plug. You may need a helper to crank over the engine or you can use a remote starter.
3) with a spark plug removed, turn over the engine and verify the piston is at top dead center when the mark on the crank pulley is opposite the "T" on the crankcase. This will verify someone did not get the pulley out of phase by 180 degrees.
4) with the mark on the pulley opposite the "T" on the crankcase, look at the driver side on the camshaft. You want to see the notch on the cam centered in the driver side cam housing. If it isn't, your cam timing is off.
If you have good compression, spark on the plugs, proper cam timing, you are very close to getting the engine to run. Carb problems, fuel supply problems, or air leaks can also prevent it from running. BTW, turning over the engine by hand or with the starter motor doesn't really lubricate the critical parts of the engine. The roller bearing design of the crank can handle oil starvation for short periods of time. The cam housing and pistons need oil to work properly. Remove the cam cover and spray some motor oil at each of the rocker arms (the housing where they pivot and where they contact the valves), where the rocker arms contact the cam, and the cam housing where the cam rests. A little oil in each cylinder will also help ....
just a little.
good luck,
Dale
1) squirt some motor oil in each cylinder (1/2 tablespoon is plenty) and perform a compression test. A great reading would be 160 psi on each cylinder
2) turn over the engine until you see the points are closed.
Remove a spark plug, connect the plug wire back onto a new spark plug and hold the threaded portion of the plug against the metal engine block, turn the ignition switch on and crank over the engine. You should see a strong spark jumping across the plug gap. Do the same thing for the other spark plug. You may need a helper to crank over the engine or you can use a remote starter.
3) with a spark plug removed, turn over the engine and verify the piston is at top dead center when the mark on the crank pulley is opposite the "T" on the crankcase. This will verify someone did not get the pulley out of phase by 180 degrees.
4) with the mark on the pulley opposite the "T" on the crankcase, look at the driver side on the camshaft. You want to see the notch on the cam centered in the driver side cam housing. If it isn't, your cam timing is off.
If you have good compression, spark on the plugs, proper cam timing, you are very close to getting the engine to run. Carb problems, fuel supply problems, or air leaks can also prevent it from running. BTW, turning over the engine by hand or with the starter motor doesn't really lubricate the critical parts of the engine. The roller bearing design of the crank can handle oil starvation for short periods of time. The cam housing and pistons need oil to work properly. Remove the cam cover and spray some motor oil at each of the rocker arms (the housing where they pivot and where they contact the valves), where the rocker arms contact the cam, and the cam housing where the cam rests. A little oil in each cylinder will also help ....
just a little.
good luck,
Dale
> I have
> some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of oil because > it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of times to move the > oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start it with the ignition.
> It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any > write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
> I live in
> the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone locally that > knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
> Thanks for
> all the help this far
> guys!
Re: Some advice would be great!
Thanks for the timing info Dale.
After doing a bunch of stuff over the past few days to see if the old z would start yesterday I finally tried to start her up.
And....!!!! It didn't start, So after asking my 12 year old brother a to turn the key so I could test for spark I found that there was none.
The spark plug was wet though, so I am getting gas!!
I'm really hopping that once the no spark issue is solved that it might fire up!!
And I will check the timing now that I have some info on how to.
Also when I originally manually turned the engine, before hand i lubricated the top end, I assumed little to no oil would probably make it up there.
After doing a bunch of stuff over the past few days to see if the old z would start yesterday I finally tried to start her up.
And....!!!! It didn't start, So after asking my 12 year old brother a to turn the key so I could test for spark I found that there was none.
The spark plug was wet though, so I am getting gas!!
I'm really hopping that once the no spark issue is solved that it might fire up!!
And I will check the timing now that I have some info on how to.
Also when I originally manually turned the engine, before hand i lubricated the top end, I assumed little to no oil would probably make it up there.
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, goinhm@... wrote:
> Here are some things to try for an engine which will not start;
> 1) squirt some motor oil in each cylinder (1/2 tablespoon is plenty) and
> perform a compression test. A great reading would be 160 psi on each
> cylinder
> 2) turn over the engine until you see the points are closed. Remove a
> spark plug, connect the plug wire back onto a new spark plug and hold the
> threaded portion of the plug against the metal engine block, turn the
> ignition switch on and crank over the engine. You should see a strong spark
> jumping across the plug gap. Do the same thing for the other spark plug. You
> may need a helper to crank over the engine or you can use a remote starter.
> 3) with a spark plug removed, turn over the engine and verify the piston
> is at top dead center when the mark on the crank pulley is opposite the
> "T" on the crankcase. This will verify someone did not get the pulley out of
> phase by 180 degrees.
> 4) with the mark on the pulley opposite the "T" on the crankcase, look
> at the driver side on the camshaft. You want to see the notch on the cam
> centered in the driver side cam housing. If it isn't, your cam timing is
> off.
> If you have good compression, spark on the plugs, proper cam timing,
> you are very close to getting the engine to run. Carb problems, fuel supply
> problems, or air leaks can also prevent it from running. BTW, turning
> over the engine by hand or with the starter motor doesn't really lubricate
> the critical parts of the engine. The roller bearing design of the crank
> can handle oil starvation for short periods of time. The cam housing and
> pistons need oil to work properly. Remove the cam cover and spray some motor
> oil at each of the rocker arms (the housing where they pivot and where they
> contact the valves), where the rocker arms contact the cam, and the cam
> housing where the cam rests. A little oil in each cylinder will also help
> .... just a little.
> good luck,
> Dale
> I have some new points and condenser, and I checked and added a bunch of
> oil because it was low. And manually turned over the engine a bunch of times
> to move the oil around and get it lubricated before I tried to start it
> with the ignition.
> It did have spark a year ago. I Need to check the timing, is there any
> write ups on the proper steps and instructions to do this?
> I live in the little town of Walla Walla Wa, I don't think there is anyone
> locally that knows much about these cars. Or from what i have gathered.
> Thanks for all the help this far guys!