giving up

[cotton]

Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards. Most of
time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few seconds. Bled
MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose. When pumping
brake pedal I can hear
noises coming from, I assume MC. Rear brakes would not lock at all. Giving
up until I
get some parts. Think I'll start with MC and rear wheel cylinders unless
someone has a better idea.
So, anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has 11/16
wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let me know as
I'm at my wits end.

[scott lesniak]

--- On
Fri, 8/15/08, cotton

wrote:
> From: cotton
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] giving up
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:21 PM
> Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards. Most of > time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few seconds. Bled > MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose. When pumping > brake pedal I can hear > noises coming from, I assume MC. Rear brakes would not lock at all. Giving > up until I > get some parts. Think I'll start with MC and rear wheel cylinders unless > someone has a better idea.
> So, anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has 11/16 > wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let me know as > I'm at my wits end.

[TOM THIES]

Cotton
when I got one of my mc's rebuilt there was a problem where I had no, to very little front fluid.  Sent it back and the second one worked perfect.  I to could hear fluid but could not bleed it.  Get it rebuilt I maybe that will solve your problem. Not that I know a lot but it was a problem I had.
hope you get it up and running soon
tom

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> cotton
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Friday, August 15, 2008 6:21
> PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] giving
> up
> Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards. Most of
> time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few seconds. Bled
> MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose. When pumping
> brake pedal I can hear
> noises coming from, I assume MC. Rear brakes
> would not lock at all. Giving
> up until I
> get some parts. Think I'll
> start with MC and rear wheel cylinders unless
> someone has a better
> idea.
> So, anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has 11/16
> wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let me know as
> I'm at my wits end.

[cotton]

Tom, that would be great but $195 + shipping is a little much for my lil ole SS check right now.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> TOM THIES
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Friday, August 15, 2008 8:47
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] giving
> up
> Cotton
> when I got one of my mc's rebuilt there was a problem where I had no, to > very little front fluid.  Sent it back and the second one worked > perfect.  I to could hear fluid but could not bleed it.  Get it > rebuilt I maybe that will solve your problem. Not that I know a lot but > it was a problem I had.
> hope you get it up and running soon
> tom
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > cotton
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Friday, August 15, 2008 6:21
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] giving
> > up
> > Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards. Most of
> > time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few seconds.
> > Bled
> > MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose. When > > pumping > > brake pedal I can hear > > noises coming from, I assume MC. Rear > > brakes would not lock at all. Giving > > up until I > > get some parts. Think > > I'll start with MC and rear wheel cylinders unless > > someone has a better > > idea.
> > So, anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has 11/16
> > wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let me know as
> > I'm at my wits end.

[cotton]

Scott,  I guess my ISP is at it still.  No message on your reply.  Try again...

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> scott
> lesniak
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Friday, August 15, 2008 8:31
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] giving
> up
> --- On
> Fri, 8/15/08, cotton
> cotteni@brazosnet. com
> wrote:
> > From: cotton
> > > cotteni@brazosnet. com
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] giving up
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date:
> > Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:21 PM
> > Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards. Most > > of > > time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few > > seconds. Bled > > MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles > > in hose. When pumping > > brake pedal I can hear > > noises coming > > from, I assume MC. Rear brakes would not lock at all. Giving > > up > > until I > > get some parts. Think I'll start with MC and rear wheel > > cylinders unless > > someone has a better idea.
> > So, anyone have a
> > good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has 11/16 > > wheel kits but > > don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let me know as > > I'm at > > my wits end.

[TOM THIES]

Yea I know what you mean.  I just got done spending  over 2 grand on the motor.. used parts...

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> cotton
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Friday, August 15, 2008 6:56
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] giving
> up
> Tom, that would be great but $195 + shipping is a little much for my lil ole > SS check right now.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > TOM THIES
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Friday, August 15, 2008 8:47
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] giving
> > up
> > Cotton
> > when I got one of my mc's rebuilt there was a problem where I had no, > > to very little front fluid.  Sent it back and the second one worked > > perfect.  I to could hear fluid but could not bleed it.  Get it > > rebuilt I maybe that will solve your problem. Not that I know a lot but > > it was a problem I had.
> > hope you get it up and running soon
> > tom
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > cotton
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent:
> > > Friday, August 15, 2008 6:21
> > > PM
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] giving
> > > up
> > > Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards. Most of
> > > time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few seconds.
> > > Bled
> > > MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose. When > > > pumping > > > brake pedal I can hear > > > noises coming from, I assume MC.
> > > Rear brakes would not lock at all. Giving
> > > up until I
> > > get some
> > > parts. Think I'll start with MC and rear wheel cylinders unless
> > > someone has a better idea.
> > > So, anyone have a good MC they want to
> > > sell? I see Miles has 11/16
> > > wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone
> > > have these parts let me know as
> > > I'm at my wits end.

[zinc2u]

Hi Cotten,
    Miles sells both sizes for your master cylinder.
He has the 3/4 and 13/16 inch sizes.  For the
wheel cylinder,  you can get the parts through your local auto parts store (look at my earlier msg with
the Raybestos part number). It should sell for less than $10.
 And I believe Miles sells the rear wheel cylinder seal kit.....ask him.
good luck,
Dale
PS  Your brake system may not need new parts.  It may only need to be disassembled and cleaned out.
Last month I was working on a coupe and sedan which were behaving identical to your situation.  It can be frustrating since I did not want to have to spend a lot of time getting it fixed.  I ended up taking apart both calipers, both rear brake cylinders,  and the master cylinder on both cars.  As I took apart each item,  I was seeing problems in each part.   Although I had one item which had some serious pitting on its bore,  most of my problems were resolved by doing a thorough cleaning.   In retrospect,  it is probably a good idea to do a thorough tear down of the brake system and make sure it is in top shape.
The last thing you want is to be traveling on the freeway and find your brakes are not working properly.

> So,
> anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has 11/16 > wheel kits > but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let me know as

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[Miles]

You should have had it done when it was $195. Now it's $225.00
exchange + shipping. I think the current price for just the sleeving
is $95.00 + kit @ $45.00 + 2 check valves $25.00 + my labor, so I
really don't make much on them.
You can send yours out to get sleeved, get a kit then rebuild it
yourself.
13/16 master cylinder kit $45.00
3/4" " " " $45.00
5/8" seals $5.00 per cup
11/16" seals $12.00 per kit
rear shoes $45.00/set 4
caliper bleeders $7.50 pr
rear brake hose for sedan $35.00
brake pads $60.00
caliper pad pins & springs also avail.
Just because you don't see it on ebay does not mean I don't have it.
I can't list everything all the time plus if you bypass eBay you can
have a 10% discount which is what they charge me to sell there +
paypal fees for receiving money.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "cotton" wrote:
> Tom, that would be great but $195 + shipping is a little much
for my lil ole SS check right now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TOM THIES
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] giving up
> Cotton
> when I got one of my mc's rebuilt there was a problem where I had
no, to very little front fluid. Sent it back and the second one
worked perfect. I to could hear fluid but could not bleed it. Get
it rebuilt I maybe that will solve your problem. Not that I know a
lot but it was a problem I had.
> hope you get it up and running soon
> tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cotton
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:21 PM
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] giving up
> Well I worked on brakes some more today and went backwards.
Most of
> time pedal goes all way to floor after holding it down a few
seconds. Bled
> MC and booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose.
When pumping
> brake pedal I can hear
> noises coming from, I assume MC. Rear brakes would not lock at
all. Giving
> up until I
> get some parts. Think I'll start with MC and rear wheel
cylinders unless
> someone has a better idea.
> So, anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see Miles has
11/16
> wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have these parts let
me know as
> I'm at my wits end.

[cotton]

Miles, Thanks for the info.  Going to try one more thing and if that don't work
I'll be ordering some parts.  Really believe I can get by without re-sleeving as it
looked good and smooth to me.  On the check valves  {is that the 3/4 inch deals on top of MC?} is that each or pair.
    I'll be back in touch if this maneuver fails.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Miles
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Saturday, August 16, 2008 7:07
> PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: giving up
> $195
> You should have had it done when it was $195. Now it's $225.00 > exchange > + shipping. I think the current price for just the sleeving > is $95.00 + > kit @ $45.00 + 2 check valves $25.00 + my labor, so I > really don't make > much on them.
> You can send yours out to get sleeved, get a kit then
> rebuild it
> yourself.
> 13/16 master cylinder kit $45.00
> 3/4" " "
> " $45.00
> 5/8" seals $5.00 per cup
> 11/16" seals $12.00 per kit
> rear
> shoes $45.00/set 4
> caliper bleeders $7.50 pr
> rear brake hose for sedan
> $35.00
> brake pads $60.00
> caliper pad pins & springs also
> avail.
> Just because you don't see it on ebay does not mean I don't have > it.
> I can't list everything all the time plus if you bypass eBay you can
> have a 10% discount which is what they charge me to sell there +
> paypal fees for receiving money.
> Miles
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "cotton" wrote:
> > Tom, that would be
> great but $195 + shipping is a little much
> for my lil ole SS check right
> now.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: TOM THIES
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:47 PM
> > Subject: Re:
> [2cylinderhondas] giving up
> > Cotton
> when I got one of my mc's rebuilt there was a problem where I had > no, to > very little front fluid. Sent it back and the second one > worked perfect. I > to could hear fluid but could not bleed it. Get > it rebuilt I maybe that > will solve your problem. Not that I know a > lot but it was a problem I > had.
> > hope you get it up and running soon
> > tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: cotton
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:21 PM
> > Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] giving up
> > Well I worked on brakes
> some more today and went backwards.
> Most of
> > time pedal goes all
> way to floor after holding it down a few
> seconds. Bled
> > MC and
> booster again and never did see air bubbles in hose.
> When pumping
> brake pedal I can hear
> > noises coming from, I assume MC. Rear brakes
> would not lock at
> all. Giving
> > up until I
> > get some parts.
> Think I'll start with MC and rear wheel
> cylinders unless
> > someone
> has a better idea.
> > So, anyone have a good MC they want to sell? I see
> Miles has
> 11/16
> > wheel kits but don't see any 5/8. Anyone have
> these parts let
> me know as
> > I'm at my wits
> end.

[Mike and Tami Speer]

Miles,
   Do you also carry the front brake hoses?
Mike