Re: [anzhonda600owners] Accel Harley Davidson Super Coil

[dealadayray]

Hi Jose;
Not to say that your car doesn't run well, maybe even better than
before. But unless you changed one of the following, the gearing set up in
the Honda 600 does not allow higher speeds with lower rpm. What has to be
changed is the wheel/tire height, gears in your trans and final drive, or
sprockets to your drive chains. This is why Honda 600's that are using 13
inch wheels use the 50 series tire so they retain the overall height of the
wheel, although it is still about 1/2 inch higher than a 10in rim and tire.
The super coil is giving you a hotter spark causing greater combustion which
gives you a cleaner running engine and better acceleration. All good
reasons to use it.
I have noticed engines that have been rebuilt and a constant speedometer
gear is used with a synchro transmission. It will appear you are achieving
greater speed with lower RPM's. What has happened is that you have changed
the gearing for the speedometer causing it to give you a false reading. A
synchro trans uses a 16 tooth gear and a constant trans uses 15 tooth gear.
15 teeth move faster than 16.
Bill

[forumadmin]

Not to stir the pot, but I have noticed a similar
effect on another car. Years ago I had a Datsun
pickup, one day I put in a different carb and
electronic ignition (stock coil) with no other
changes, same tranny, same rear end, same tires, same
speedo, same pinion. I was a little baffled to find
the same thing as Jose. same speed with significantly
less RPM. something in the hundreds of RPM's less. I
agree with bill that it should not be possible, but
repeated observations always gave the same results.
Can anyone shed a little light on this as it has
puzzled me for many years now.
Ian
--- william colford wrote:

> Hi Jose;
> Not to say that your car doesn't run well,
> maybe even better than
> before. But unless you changed one of the
> following, the gearing set up in
> the Honda 600 does not allow higher speeds with
> lower rpm. What has to be
> changed is the wheel/tire height, gears in your
> trans and final drive, or
> sprockets to your drive chains. This is why Honda
> 600's that are using 13
> inch wheels use the 50 series tire so they retain
> the overall height of the
> wheel, although it is still about 1/2 inch higher
> than a 10in rim and tire.
> The super coil is giving you a hotter spark causing
> greater combustion which
> gives you a cleaner running engine and better
> acceleration. All good
> reasons to use it.
> I have noticed engines that have been rebuilt
> and a constant speedometer
> gear is used with a synchro transmission. It will
> appear you are achieving
> greater speed with lower RPM's. What has happened
> is that you have changed
> the gearing for the speedometer causing it to give
> you a false reading. A
> synchro trans uses a 16 tooth gear and a constant
> trans uses 15 tooth gear.
> 15 teeth move faster than 16.
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 3:48 PM
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Accel Harley Davidson
> Super Coil
> > Hi
> > I put an Accel Harley Davidson Super Coil with 8
> mm super stock wires on
> my
> > 72 Z600 and the car is running real good. Before I
> put the new coil the
> > engine ran 70 MPH at 5600 RPM, Now she does 70 MPH
> at 5100 RPM. I took the
> > car for a 80 miles ride, and it ran real good. I
> should get better gas
> > mileage now.
> > Jose
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[honda72z600]

Bill,
Nothing was changed in the Car, All I changed was the Coil.
And I always keep an eye on the RPM's while I'm driving.
I can't explain why I'm getting better RPM readings and Mileage.
As I said, I haven't changes anything since I bought the car from Mike
O'Conner.
All except the Coil.
But I like what I see.
Jose
Hi Jose;
Not to say that your car doesn't run well, maybe even better than
before. But unless you changed one of the following, the gearing set up in
the Honda 600 does not allow higher speeds with lower rpm. What has to be
changed is the wheel/tire height, gears in your trans and final drive, or
sprockets to your drive chains. This is why Honda 600's that are using 13
inch wheels use the 50 series tire so they retain the overall height of the
wheel, although it is still about 1/2 inch higher than a 10in rim and tire.
The super coil is giving you a hotter spark causing greater combustion which
gives you a cleaner running engine and better acceleration. All good
reasons to use it.
I have noticed engines that have been rebuilt and a constant speedometer
gear is used with a synchro transmission. It will appear you are achieving
greater speed with lower RPM's. What has happened is that you have changed
the gearing for the speedometer causing it to give you a false reading. A
synchro trans uses a 16 tooth gear and a constant trans uses 15 tooth gear.
15 teeth move faster than 16.
Bill

[acuhondvig]

--- In 2cylinderhondas@y..., my70gto@a... wrote:

> Bill,
> Nothing was changed in the Car, All I changed was the Coil.

I need new wires for my 600 sedan(as most of you know, the coil and
wires are one unit), will this Harley coil just replace the stock
setup? if so what exactly do I need(part # etc.) and where could I get it?
thanks
Scott

[honda72z600]

I use an Accel Harley Davidson Super Coil
Part # 140405
1965-69 FL and FX 1200cc Twins; 1967-1977 XLH900 1000cc Twins; and 1967-1973
Servicar Twins
The coil Included is a 8.8 mm spark plug wire set, one of the wire is to
short so had to buy a set of 8 mm red super stock wire for car.
A stock Harley Davidson Coil for the same year bike shod work.
Jose