Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

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shdunnnm
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Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

Post by shdunnnm »

I'm trying to sort out some, uh, creative wiring in my '71 N600.
Where do the two solenoid wires go?
The "fat" one?
And the "thin" one?
Thanks,
Skip
Bill
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

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Black to ground, Black w/yellow stripe to power.
Sound good?
Bill
shdunnnm
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

Post by shdunnnm »

Sounds right, Bill.  Still, I saw somewhere to intall blk/yellow under an intake manifold bolt, and blk wire under the solenoid mounting screw.
How does that sound to you?
Skip
Bill
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

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Something to check out…
Bill
zinc2u
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

Post by zinc2u »

Hi Skip,
    What you seem to be suggesting will not supply any power to the solenoid.   The carb is neither a source of +12 volts or a path to chassis ground.  As Bill suggested,  connect the black wire to ground (the 10mm bolt below the intake manifold was a common place..... the bolt below the intake and not one of the 2 bolts attaching the intake to the cylinder head).  Connect the black / yellow stripe to +12 volts (the wiring harness by the air cleaner box has this wire coming out of it).  For testing,  you could connect this solenoid wire (via an extension wire) directly to the + terminal of the battery and you should hear the solenoid click.
    If you remove the solenoid from the carb,  you should find a small o-ring which seals this connection.  This o-ring is important.  Also,   the solenoid should have a plunger which is extended when not energized.  Applying power and the plunger is retracted into the body of the solenoid.   Sometimes you will find a solenoid which has the plunger cut or permanently retracted because someone had a problem with this section and did a "temporary" repair to get the car running again.
good luck,
Dale
Steve
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

Post by Steve »

The last new carbs supplied did not even come with the solenoid. They had a steel plate with oring
underneath to make the seal. The solenoid was an anti-dieseling device that was supposed to shut
off fuel when key switched off to prevent cam timing jump. Good luck, as with worn chains, rollers
etc, that didn't work anyway.
I had suggested in my 1992-96 newsletters that folks would force stop the engine when turning off the car
and not leaving car in gear when parked on a hill. To turn off car leave in first gear, foot on brake,
turn off key at same time slowly release clutch, takes some practice, might sound odd but guarantees
you won't jump timing (causes bent valves).
Secondly it's ok to park on a hill in gear, nose down or reverse
gear nose up.
Miles
Richard Dunn
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid

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Thanks for the info!
Jeff Hill
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Re: Wiring for Carburetor anti-diesel Solenoid [1 Attachment]

Post by Jeff Hill »

Hey Miles, This is Jeff Hill. Do you have a carb adjustment screw. Mine vibrated out. thx
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 12:40 PM 'Miles Chappell'
z600miles@...
[anzhonda600owners] wrote:
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> Attachment(s)
> from Miles Chappell included below]
> The last new carbs supplied did not even come
> with the solenoid. They had a steel plate with oring
> underneath to make the seal. The solenoid was an
> anti-dieseling device that was supposed to shut
> off fuel when key switched off to prevent cam
> timing jump. Good luck, as with worn chains, rollers
> etc, that didn't work anyway.
> �
> I had suggested in my 1992-96 newsletters that
> folks would force stop the engine when turning off the car
> and not leaving car in gear when parked on a
> hill. To turn off car leave in first gear, foot on brake,
> turn off key at same time slowly release clutch,
> takes some practice, might sound odd but guarantees
> you won't jump timing (causes bent valves).
> Secondly it's ok to park on a hill in gear, nose down or reverse
> gear nose up.
> �
> Miles
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