Engine swap ?

[Michael Wasilewski]

Hello, I would appreciate being entertained by you nice folks with the ideas of an engine swap in a 72. I have heard of Harleys, 750 4four Hondas... How about a new Fiat engine. Any comments would be great appreciated. Michael

[Bill]

Remember Mike, the Honda 600 engine has the engine and trans in the same case and it attaches to the front drive/wheels.  But talk to Mark P Hatten who has changed out the engine.
Bill

[Juni Select]

If you're going to go with something new, look in to the new fit engine! Very compact, and it's a honda!

On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:32 PM, 'Bill'
billmyong@...
[anzhonda600owners] wrote:
Remember Mike, the Honda 600 engine has the engine and
trans in the same case and it attaches to the front drive/wheels.  But talk to Mark P Hatten < mphatten@...
who has changed
out the engine.
Bill
From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
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mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]
Sent:
Wednesday, January
21, 2015 7:09 PM
To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
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Group
Subject:
[anzhonda600owners] Engine swap ?
Hello, I would appreciate being
entertained by you nice folks with the ideas of an engine swap in a 72. I have heard of Harleys, 750 4four Hondas... How about a new Fiat engine. Any comments would be great appreciated. Michael

[David Brower]

IF YOU USE A BIKE ENGINE , YOU WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COOLING , GEARING & THE LACK OF A REVERSE .
A CAR ENGINE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE COOLED BUT WILL ALSO NEED A TRANSMISSION & DIFFERENTIAL .
ONCE YOU ARE THROUGH DEALING WITH THOSE QUESTIONS , THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OF WORK IN FINDING A WAY FOR IT TO FIT IN THE CAR WITH EVERYTHING STILL BEING FUNCTIONAL .
TO QUOTE MYSELF , WHEN DOING AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT , A QUARTER OF AN INCH CAN BE WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS .
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:55 PM, "Juni Select juniselect@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
If you're going to go with something new, look in to the new fit engine! Very compact, and it's a honda!
On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:32 PM, 'Bill' billmyong@...
[anzhonda600owners] Remember Mike, the Honda 600 engine has the engine and
> trans in the same case and it attaches to the front drive/wheels.  But talk > to > Mark P Hatten > mphatten@...
> who has changed
> out the engine.
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> Sent:
> Wednesday, January
> 21, 2015 7:09 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ; Honda 600
> Group
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Engine swap ?
> Hello, I would appreciate being
> entertained by you nice folks with the ideas of an engine swap in a 72. I have > heard of Harleys, 750 4four Hondas... How about a new Fiat engine. Any comments > would be great appreciated. Michael
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[Lyle Trudell]

I agree with David. Just no room under that little hood, without chopping everything up, ask Mark. He is still working on that motorcycle engine project. Also these cars are very rare in nice shape. You could put a turbo, with fuel injection on the 600 and have fun. Even doing that is a lot of machining and fab work. It's your car and money, just think it through. I was thinking about a Harley engine mounted sideways with rear drive......guy's need hobbies. My 2 cent's minus taxes. Tru-Craft.com Lyle

[Mark P Hatten]

Yes precisely,  a 1/4" is worth a $ million dollars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m6DxaJ8nyI
Mark
www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:15:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Engine swap ?
I agree with David. Just no room under that little hood, without chopping everything up, ask Mark. He is still working on that motorcycle engine project. Also these cars are very rare in nice shape. You could put a turbo, with fuel injection on the 600 and have fun. Even doing that is a lot of machining and fab work. It's your car and money, just think it through. I was thinking about a Harley engine mounted sideways with rear drive......guy's need hobbies. My 2 cent's minus taxes. Tru-Craft.com Lyle

[novak_dean]

I had the same question several years ago and found very few links/projects for repowered N/Z600s, even fewer that got to the running stage.... There are a few out there however, if you dig for them&
-As stated, Yahoo group member Mark (2stroketurbo) has a BEC N600 in-progress-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bT9br1nYw4
-This guy (Bryce) did a wonderful job stuffing a Honda car engine into the rear of his N600-- http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/ ... 452/page1/
-This N360 repower stalled out last I checked, but looked promising-- http://jalopnik.com/5465237/if-the-rear ... ow-what-is
-Then theres mine.. still under construction and scruffy looking, but mechanically running and sorted-- http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtop ... 36&t=14452
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Whatever you end up doing, if you alter the drivetrain, it is a tremendous amount of work, but its also a lot of fun J
Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do with your 72&
--ccrunner

[Mike McGregor]

I've also been looking at ways of swapping the engine out and putting an electric motor in its place.  Even with the smaller size of an electric motor, I am having major fitment issues.
Just the fwd manual transmission alone from another car can be difficult to fit under a Honda 600 hood.
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:44 AM, "David Brower the_rimspoke@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
IF YOU USE A BIKE ENGINE , YOU WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COOLING , GEARING & THE LACK OF A REVERSE .
A CAR ENGINE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE COOLED BUT WILL ALSO NEED A TRANSMISSION & DIFFERENTIAL .
ONCE YOU ARE THROUGH DEALING WITH THOSE QUESTIONS , THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OF WORK IN FINDING A WAY FOR IT TO FIT IN THE CAR WITH EVERYTHING STILL BEING FUNCTIONAL .
TO QUOTE MYSELF , WHEN DOING AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT , A QUARTER OF AN INCH CAN BE WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS .
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:55 PM, "Juni Select juniselect@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
If you're going to go with something new, look in to the new fit engine! Very compact, and it's a honda!
On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:32 PM, 'Bill' billmyong@...
[anzhonda600owners] Remember Mike, the Honda 600 engine has the engine and
> trans in the same case and it attaches to the front drive/wheels.  But talk > to > Mark P Hatten > mphatten@...
> who has changed
> out the engine.
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> Sent:
> Wednesday, January
> 21, 2015 7:09 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ; Honda 600
> Group
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Engine swap ?
> Hello, I would appreciate being
> entertained by you nice folks with the ideas of an engine swap in a 72. I have > heard of Harleys, 750 4four Hondas... How about a new Fiat engine. Any comments > would be great appreciated. Michael
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[T W S]

theres a guy in mexico did it with a Z600. Used a geo metro trans. Several videos.pretty cool.Go to Youtube, type in electric Z600. Might have to snoop for it. Its red
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:34 PM, "Mike McGregor megamike78@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
I've also been looking at ways of swapping the engine out and putting an electric motor in its place.  Even with the smaller size of an electric motor, I am having major fitment issues.
Just the fwd manual transmission alone from another car can be difficult to fit under a Honda 600 hood.
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:44 AM, "David Brower the_rimspoke@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
IF YOU USE A BIKE ENGINE , YOU WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COOLING , GEARING & THE LACK OF A REVERSE .
A CAR ENGINE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE COOLED BUT WILL ALSO NEED A TRANSMISSION & DIFFERENTIAL .
ONCE YOU ARE THROUGH DEALING WITH THOSE QUESTIONS , THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OF WORK IN FINDING A WAY FOR IT TO FIT IN THE CAR WITH EVERYTHING STILL BEING FUNCTIONAL .
TO QUOTE MYSELF , WHEN DOING AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT , A QUARTER OF AN INCH CAN BE WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS .
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:55 PM, "Juni Select juniselect@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
If you're going to go with something new, look in to the new fit engine! Very compact, and it's a honda!
On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:32 PM, 'Bill' billmyong@...
[anzhonda600owners] Remember Mike, the Honda 600 engine has the engine and
> trans in the same case and it attaches to the front drive/wheels.  But talk > to > Mark P Hatten > mphatten@...
> who has changed
> out the engine.
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> Sent:
> Wednesday, January
> 21, 2015 7:09 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ; Honda 600
> Group
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Engine swap ?
> Hello, I would appreciate being
> entertained by you nice folks with the ideas of an engine swap in a 72. I have > heard of Harleys, 750 4four Hondas... How about a new Fiat engine. Any comments > would be great appreciated. Michael
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[David Brink]

G10 N600
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On Friday, January 23, 2015 3:15 PM, "T W S woofbiteme@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
theres a guy in mexico did it with a Z600. Used a geo metro trans. Several videos.pretty cool.Go to Youtube, type in electric Z600. Might have to snoop for it. Its red
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:34 PM, "Mike McGregor megamike78@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
I've also been looking at ways of swapping the engine out and putting an electric motor in its place.  Even with the smaller size of an electric motor, I am having major fitment issues.
Just the fwd manual transmission alone from another car can be difficult to fit under a Honda 600 hood.
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:44 AM, "David Brower the_rimspoke@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
IF YOU USE A BIKE ENGINE , YOU WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COOLING , GEARING & THE LACK OF A REVERSE .
A CAR ENGINE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE COOLED BUT WILL ALSO NEED A TRANSMISSION & DIFFERENTIAL .
ONCE YOU ARE THROUGH DEALING WITH THOSE QUESTIONS , THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OF WORK IN FINDING A WAY FOR IT TO FIT IN THE CAR WITH EVERYTHING STILL BEING FUNCTIONAL .
TO QUOTE MYSELF , WHEN DOING AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT , A QUARTER OF AN INCH CAN BE WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS .
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:55 PM, "Juni Select juniselect@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
If you're going to go with something new, look in to the new fit engine! Very compact, and it's a honda!
On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:32 PM, 'Bill' billmyong@...
[anzhonda600owners] Remember Mike, the Honda 600 engine has the engine and
> trans in the same case and it attaches to the front drive/wheels.  But talk > to > Mark P Hatten > mphatten@...
> who has changed
> out the engine.
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> Sent:
> Wednesday, January
> 21, 2015 7:09 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ; Honda 600
> Group
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Engine swap ?
> Hello, I would appreciate being
> entertained by you nice folks with the ideas of an engine swap in a 72. I have > heard of Harleys, 750 4four Hondas... How about a new Fiat engine. Any comments > would be great appreciated. Michael
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