Tires / Rims

Robert James · Post by **Robert James** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:26 pm

Any chance of getting a hold of some of these (would they even fit!?) �Note: this article is 2 �years old.
http://wot.motortrend.com/rolling-donut ... z2W8p6VxvM

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:15 PM, bobs600honda
�
> New tires is probably the best solution. The date of manufacture on the 4 Michelin tires (made in Belgium) are
> A10 x 135 (the 13th week of 1995?)
> A10 x 464 (the 46th week of 1994?)
> A4M x 131 (the 13th week of 1991?)
> A4M x 111 (the 11th week of 1991?)
> I took a look at Coker and they have a Kingstire for $65 -
> http://www.cokertire.com/kingstire-145-80r10.html
> and the Vredestein Sprint Classic for $87.
> Leaning towards the Kingstire.
> Bob
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , notrace07@... wrote:
> > I would just put new tires back on. Coker has them in stock and will ship them to you door step and then you will most Likely never need to worry about that part again. I had to put a tube in one of my new tires cause it would not seal properly.
> > Kurt
> > On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Robert James wrote:
> > > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes? Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James wrote:
> > >> Well, I might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> > >> Bob
> > >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman wrote:
> > >>> It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> > >>> If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> > >>> Richard
> > >>> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , T W S wrote:
> > >>> > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > >>> > From: bobs600honda
> > >>> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > >>> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> > >>> > �
> > >>> > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > >>> > Can any tire shop handle this?
> > >>> > Thanks for any info.
> > >>> > Bob

zinc2u · Post by **zinc2u** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:50 pm

Hi Bob,
    Putting tubes in a tire which was tubeless was something I saw on the Honda Z600s in the 70s.   The Z600 was coming with the Michelin 145SR10Z as the standard tire from Honda. And I would see a tube inside of it.
    Here is the downside of having the tube inside the tire ........ it generates a little more heat. But since you are not racing this car, it is not a big deal.
    Here is the upside of keeping the tube in the tire ...... if you do not drive the car very often and it sits for long periods of time, the tire will have less problems with losing air since the only place it can leak is through the valve stem. On a tubeless tire, it can leak through the valve stem and by the beam. On old rims, leakage by the rim becomes more of an issue since the wheel gets pitted and rusted in the area of the bead. If you have a good tube, I vote you keep them on the wheel.
     Since you are refinishing the wheels, air leakage at the rims may not be a problem for some time. So, either way (with or without tube) would give good resuts.
     One problem you can have with tubes is dealing with tire shops who are not used to working with inner tubes. I took a wheel in to have the tire removed and the guy did not realize there was an inner tube. After breaking the tire bead, he did not reach in and remove the tube. As he took off the tire, the tube caught at the valve stem and the tube was damaged.   When he gave me the pieces, he told me the tube came apart because it was rotted from age.   That is possible but when you take the remaining tube rubber and stretch it, I have found that it will tear apart very easily if it is "rotted".   I never did business with that tire shop again.
good luck,
Dale

> Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the > tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops > would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims to get > powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner > tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have > "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?
> Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires > have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
> rjamesblues@...
> wrote:
> > Well, I
> > might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope > > for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> > Bob
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
> > > richmccolman@...
> > wrote:
> > > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, > > > non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to > > > after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and > > > balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- > > > all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even > > > offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't > > > bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there > > > was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with > > > them just fine.
> > > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of
> > > tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should > > > have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain > > > places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires > > > only.
> > > Richard
> > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , T W S
> > > wrote:
> > > > i went to
> > > Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to > > > Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to > > > pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the > > > weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by > > > that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > From: bobs600honda
> > > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > Tires / Rims
> > > > �
> > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > Can
> > > any tire shop handle this?
> > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > Bob
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Robert James · Post by **Robert James** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:01 pm

Thanks for the info Dale. �I think on at least 2 of the tires, the bead looks to be torn up. �Maybe using a tube was the solution so that tire didn't go flat. �I'd like to avoid another $300 for tires but at the same time considering the age of them, it might be a lot safer to go with new.
Bob

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM,
�
> Hi Bob,
> �
> �� Putting tubes in a tire which was tubeless was something > I saw on the Honda Z600s in the 70s.�� The Z600 was coming with the > Michelin 145SR10Z as the standard tire from Honda.� And I would see a tube > inside of it.
> �
> �� Here is the downside of having the tube inside the tire > ........ it generates a little more heat.� But since you are not racing > this car,� it is not a big deal.
> �
> �� Here is the upside of keeping the tube in the tire
> ...... if you do not drive the car very often and it sits for long periods of > time,� the tire will have less problems with losing air since the only > place it can leak is through the valve stem.� On a tubeless tire,� it > can leak through the valve stem and by the beam.� On old rims,� > leakage by the rim becomes more of an issue since the wheel gets pitted and > rusted in the area of the bead.� If you have a good tube,� I vote you > keep them on the wheel.��
> �
> �� Since you are refinishing the wheels,� air
> leakage at the rims may not be a problem for some time.� So,� either > way (with or without tube) would give good resuts.
> �
> �� One problem you can have with tubes is dealing
> with tire shops who are not used to working with�inner tubes.� I took > a wheel in to have the tire removed and the guy did not realize there was an > inner tube.� After breaking the tire bead,� he did not reach in and > remove the tube.� As he took off the tire,� the tube caught at the > valve stem and the tube was damaged.�� When he gave me the > pieces,� he told me the tube came apart because it was rotted from > age.�� That is possible but when you take the remaining tube rubber > and stretch it,� I have found that it will tear apart very easily if it is > "rotted".�� I never did business with that tire shop again.
> �
> good luck,
> Dale
> > �
> > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the > > tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops > > would not remount them. �As I needed the tires off to take rims to get > > powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner > > tubes. �The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. �The tire does not have > > "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?
> > �Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires > > have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
> > > rjamesblues@...
> > wrote:
> > > Well, I
> > > might be going over the dam! �Heading over to America's Tires and hope > > > for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires. �
> > > Bob
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > richmccolman@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > �
> > > > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, > > > > non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to > > > > after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and > > > > balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- > > > > all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even > > > > offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't > > > > bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there > > > > was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with > > > > them just fine.
> > > > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of
> > > > tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should > > > > have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain > > > > places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires > > > > only.
> > > > Richard
> > > > --- In
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , T W S
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > i went to
> > > > Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to > > > > Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to > > > > pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the > > > > weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by > > > > that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > > From: bobs600honda
> > > > > To:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > > Tires / Rims
> > > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > > Can
> > > > any tire shop handle this?
> > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > Bob
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Robert James · Post by **Robert James** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:43 pm

Okay - some advice needed here...
I have been looking for new tires and minimania has� �A008 Yokohama 165/70-10 for $120 but with a dire warning....
"Mount tires to rim by hand only! Machine mounting will damage the tire and will not be warranted"
Is this the case with all of these 10" tires?
Also, I found� 145SR10 Vredestein Sprint Classic Blackwall Tire � at� ttps://www.universaltire.com �for $87 each plue $67 shipping.
Will these also need to be 'hand mounted"
Thanks for any info.
Bob

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert James
Thanks for the info Dale. �I think on at least 2 of the tires, the bead looks to be torn up. �Maybe using a tube was the solution so that tire didn't go flat. �I'd like to avoid another $300 for tires but at the same time considering the age of them, it might be a lot safer to go with new.
> Bob
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM,
> goinhm@...
> wrote:
> > �
> > Hi Bob,
> > �
> > �� Putting tubes in a tire which was tubeless was something > > I saw on the Honda Z600s in the 70s.�� The Z600 was coming with the > > Michelin 145SR10Z as the standard tire from Honda.� And I would see a tube > > inside of it.
> > �
> > �� Here is the downside of having the tube inside the tire > > ........ it generates a little more heat.� But since you are not racing > > this car,� it is not a big deal.
> > �
> > �� Here is the upside of keeping the tube in the tire
> > ...... if you do not drive the car very often and it sits for long periods of > > time,� the tire will have less problems with losing air since the only > > place it can leak is through the valve stem.� On a tubeless tire,� it > > can leak through the valve stem and by the beam.� On old rims,� > > leakage by the rim becomes more of an issue since the wheel gets pitted and > > rusted in the area of the bead.� If you have a good tube,� I vote you > > keep them on the wheel.��
> > �
> > �� Since you are refinishing the wheels,� air
> > leakage at the rims may not be a problem for some time.� So,� either > > way (with or without tube) would give good resuts.
> > �
> > �� One problem you can have with tubes is dealing
> > with tire shops who are not used to working with�inner tubes.� I took > > a wheel in to have the tire removed and the guy did not realize there was an > > inner tube.� After breaking the tire bead,� he did not reach in and > > remove the tube.� As he took off the tire,� the tube caught at the > > valve stem and the tube was damaged.�� When he gave me the > > pieces,� he told me the tube came apart because it was rotted from > > age.�� That is possible but when you take the remaining tube rubber > > and stretch it,� I have found that it will tear apart very easily if it is > > "rotted".�� I never did business with that tire shop again.
> > �
> > good luck,
> > Dale
> > > �
> > > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the > > > tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops > > > would not remount them. �As I needed the tires off to take rims to get > > > powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner > > > tubes. �The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. �The tire does not have > > > "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?
> > > �Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires > > > have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
> > > > > rjamesblues@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Well, I
> > > > might be going over the dam! �Heading over to America's Tires and hope > > > > for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires. �
> > > > Bob
> > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > > richmccolman@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > �
> > > > > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, > > > > > non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to > > > > > after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and > > > > > balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- > > > > > all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even > > > > > offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't > > > > > bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there > > > > > was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with > > > > > them just fine.
> > > > > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of
> > > > > tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should > > > > > have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain > > > > > places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires > > > > > only.
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > --- In
> > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > , T W S
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > i went to
> > > > > Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to > > > > > Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to > > > > > pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the > > > > > weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by > > > > > that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > > > From: bobs600honda
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > > > Tires / Rims
> > > > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > > > Can
> > > > > any tire shop handle this?
> > > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > > Bob
> > > Reply
> > > via web post
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notrace07 · Post by **notrace07** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:07 pm

I bought Falken's from Coker shipped to my door for less than $300 and I'm happy with them. Les Schawb mounted them and I've had no problems Kurt

On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Robert James wrote:
Okay - some advice needed here...
I have been looking for new tires and minimania has
A008 Yokohama 165/70-10 for $120 but with a dire warning....
"Mount tires to rim by hand only! Machine mounting will damage the tire and will not be warranted"
Is this the case with all of these 10" tires?
Also, I found
145SR10 Vredestein Sprint Classic Blackwall Tire
at
ttps://www.universaltire.com
for $87 each plue $67 shipping.
Will these also need to be 'hand mounted"
Thanks for any info.
Bob
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert James
Thanks for the info Dale. I think on at least 2 of the tires, the bead looks to be torn up. Maybe using a tube was the solution so that tire didn't go flat. I'd like to avoid another $300 for tires but at the same time considering the age of them, it might be a lot safer to go with new.
> Bob
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM,
> goinhm@...
> wrote:
> > Hi Bob,
> >     Putting tubes in a tire which was tubeless was something > > I saw on the Honda Z600s in the 70s.   The Z600 was coming with the > > Michelin 145SR10Z as the standard tire from Honda. And I would see a tube > > inside of it.
> >     Here is the downside of having the tube inside the tire > > ........ it generates a little more heat. But since you are not racing > > this car, it is not a big deal.
> >     Here is the upside of keeping the tube in the tire
> > ...... if you do not drive the car very often and it sits for long periods of > > time, the tire will have less problems with losing air since the only > > place it can leak is through the valve stem. On a tubeless tire, it > > can leak through the valve stem and by the beam. On old rims, > > leakage by the rim becomes more of an issue since the wheel gets pitted and > > rusted in the area of the bead. If you have a good tube, I vote you > > keep them on the wheel.
> >      Since you are refinishing the wheels, air
> > leakage at the rims may not be a problem for some time. So, either > > way (with or without tube) would give good resuts.
> >      One problem you can have with tubes is dealing
> > with tire shops who are not used to working with inner tubes. I took > > a wheel in to have the tire removed and the guy did not realize there was an > > inner tube. After breaking the tire bead, he did not reach in and > > remove the tube. As he took off the tire, the tube caught at the > > valve stem and the tube was damaged.   When he gave me the > > pieces, he told me the tube came apart because it was rotted from > > age.   That is possible but when you take the remaining tube rubber > > and stretch it, I have found that it will tear apart very easily if it is > > "rotted".   I never did business with that tire shop again.
> > good luck,
> > Dale
> > > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the > > > tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops > > > would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims to get > > > powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner > > > tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have > > > "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?
> > > Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires > > > have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
> > > > > rjamesblues@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Well, I
> > > > might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope > > > > for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> > > > Bob
> > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > > richmccolman@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, > > > > > non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to > > > > > after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and > > > > > balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- > > > > > all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even > > > > > offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't > > > > > bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there > > > > > was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with > > > > > them just fine.
> > > > > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of
> > > > > tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should > > > > > have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain > > > > > places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires > > > > > only.
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > --- In
> > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > , T W S
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > i went to
> > > > > Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to > > > > > Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to > > > > > pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the > > > > > weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by > > > > > that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > > > From: bobs600honda
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > > > Tires / Rims
> > > > > > �
> > > > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > > > Can
> > > > > any tire shop handle this?
> > > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > > Bob
> > > Reply
> > > via web post
> > > Reply
> > > to sender
> > > Reply
> > > to group
> > > Start
> > > a New Topic
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Robert James · Post by **Robert James** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:27 pm

Thanks - under $100 per tire is a good deal for any tire these days!
I will look into that.
Bob

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM,
�
> I bought Falken's from Coker shipped to my door for less than $300 and I'm happy with them. �Les Schawb mounted them and I've had no problems > �Kurt
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Robert James rjamesblues@...
> > wrote:
> > �
> > Okay - some advice needed here...
> > I have been looking for new tires and minimania has�
> > �A008 Yokohama 165/70-10 for $120 but with a dire warning....
> > "Mount tires to rim by hand only! Machine mounting will damage the tire and will not be warranted"
> > Is this the case with all of these 10" tires?
> > Also, I found�
> > 145SR10 Vredestein Sprint Classic Blackwall Tire
> > � at�
> > ttps://www.universaltire.com
> > �for $87 each plue $67 shipping.
> > Will these also need to be 'hand mounted"
> > Thanks for any info.
> > Bob
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert James
> > > rjamesblues@...
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info Dale. �I think on at least 2 of the tires, the bead looks to be torn up. �Maybe using a tube was the solution so that tire didn't go flat. �I'd like to avoid another $300 for tires but at the same time considering the age of them, it might be a lot safer to go with new.
> > > Bob
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM,
> > > > > goinhm@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > �
> > > > Hi Bob,
> > > > �
> > > > �� Putting tubes in a tire which was tubeless was something > > > > I saw on the Honda Z600s in the 70s.�� The Z600 was coming with the > > > > Michelin 145SR10Z as the standard tire from Honda.� And I would see a tube > > > > inside of it.
> > > > �
> > > > �� Here is the downside of having the tube inside the tire > > > > ........ it generates a little more heat.� But since you are not racing > > > > this car,� it is not a big deal.
> > > > �
> > > > �� Here is the upside of keeping the tube in the tire > > > > ...... if you do not drive the car very often and it sits for long periods of > > > > time,� the tire will have less problems with losing air since the only > > > > place it can leak is through the valve stem.� On a tubeless tire,� it > > > > can leak through the valve stem and by the beam.� On old rims,� > > > > leakage by the rim becomes more of an issue since the wheel gets pitted and > > > > rusted in the area of the bead.� If you have a good tube,� I vote you > > > > keep them on the wheel.��
> > > > �
> > > > �� Since you are refinishing the wheels,� air
> > > > leakage at the rims may not be a problem for some time.� So,� either > > > > way (with or without tube) would give good resuts.
> > > > �
> > > > �� One problem you can have with tubes is dealing
> > > > with tire shops who are not used to working with�inner tubes.� I took > > > > a wheel in to have the tire removed and the guy did not realize there was an > > > > inner tube.� After breaking the tire bead,� he did not reach in and > > > > remove the tube.� As he took off the tire,� the tube caught at the > > > > valve stem and the tube was damaged.�� When he gave me the > > > > pieces,� he told me the tube came apart because it was rotted from > > > > age.�� That is possible but when you take the remaining tube rubber > > > > and stretch it,� I have found that it will tear apart very easily if it is > > > > "rotted".�� I never did business with that tire shop again.
> > > > �
> > > > good luck,
> > > > Dale
> > > > > �
> > > > > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > > > > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the > > > > > tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops > > > > > would not remount them. �As I needed the tires off to take rims to get > > > > > powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > > > > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner > > > > > tubes. �The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. �The tire does not have > > > > > "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?
> > > > > �Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires > > > > > have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
> > > > > > > > > rjamesblues@...
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Well, I
> > > > > > might be going over the dam! �Heading over to America's Tires and hope > > > > > > for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires. �
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > > > > > > richmccolman@...
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > �
> > > > > > > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, > > > > > > > non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to > > > > > > > after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and > > > > > > > balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- > > > > > > > all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even > > > > > > > offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't > > > > > > > bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there > > > > > > > was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with > > > > > > > them just fine.
> > > > > > > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of > > > > > > > tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should > > > > > > > have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain > > > > > > > places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires > > > > > > > only.
> > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > , T W S
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > i went to
> > > > > > > Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to > > > > > > > Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to > > > > > > > pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the > > > > > > > weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by > > > > > > > that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > > > > > From: bobs600honda
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > > > > > Tires / Rims
> > > > > > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > > > > > Can
> > > > > > > any tire shop handle this?
> > > > > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > Reply
> > > > > via web post
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> > > > .

mterrens · Post by **mterrens** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:48 pm

My Kumho 758s (now generally unavailable) were mounted by machine a few years ago; no problems.

Eric Geiger · Post by **Eric Geiger** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:14 pm

The tires I just had mounted were kuhmos. They used a machine as well and they turned out perfect
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:51 PM, "Steven Michelsen" wrote:
My Kumho 758s (now generally unavailable) were mounted by machine a few years ago; no problems.
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Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Tires / Rims
I bought Falken's from Coker shipped to my door for less than $300 and I'm happy with them. Les Schawb mounted them and I've had no problems
Kurt
On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Robert James wrote:
> Okay - some advice needed here...
> I have been looking for new tires and minimania has
> A008 Yokohama 165/70-10 for $120 but with a dire warning....
> "Mount tires to rim by hand only! Machine mounting will damage the tire and will not be warranted"
> Is this the case with all of these 10" tires?
> Also, I found
> 145SR10 Vredestein Sprint Classic Blackwall Tire
> at
> ttps://www.universaltire.com
> for $87 each plue $67 shipping.
> Will these also need to be 'hand mounted"
> Thanks for any info.
> Bob
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert James rjamesblues@...
> > wrote:
> Thanks for the info Dale. I think on at least 2 of the tires, the bead looks to be torn up. Maybe using a tube was the solution so that tire didn't go flat. I'd like to avoid another $300 for tires but at the same time considering the > age of them, it might be a lot safer to go with new.
> Bob
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM, goinhm@...
> > wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>     Putting tubes in a tire which was tubeless was something I saw on the Honda Z600s in the 70s.   The Z600 was coming with the Michelin 145SR10Z as the standard tire from Honda. And I would see a tube inside > of it.
>     Here is the downside of having the tube inside the tire ........ it generates a little more heat. But since you are not racing this car, it is not a big deal.
>     Here is the upside of keeping the tube in the tire ...... if you do not drive the car very often and it sits for long periods of time, the tire will have less problems with losing air since the only place > it can leak is through the valve stem. On a tubeless tire, it can leak through the valve stem and by the beam. On old rims, leakage by the rim becomes more of an issue since the wheel gets pitted and rusted in the area of the bead. If you have a good > tube, I vote you keep them on the wheel.
>      Since you are refinishing the wheels, air leakage at the rims may not be a problem for some time. So, either way (with or without tube) would give good resuts.
>      One problem you can have with tubes is dealing with tire shops who are not used to working with inner tubes. I took a wheel in to have the tire removed and the guy did not realize there was an inner tube.
> After breaking the tire bead, he did not reach in and remove the tube. As he took off the tire, the tube caught at the valve stem and the tube was damaged.   When he gave me the pieces, he told me the tube came apart because it was rotted from age.   That > is possible but when you take the remaining tube rubber and stretch it, I have found that it will tear apart very easily if it is "rotted".   I never did business with that tire shop again.
> good luck,
> Dale
> > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims > > to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?
> > Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James > rjamesblues@...
> > > wrote:
> > > Well, I might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> > > Bob
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman > > richmccolman@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit > > > > charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) > > > > Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> > > > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and > > > > truck tires only.
> > > > Richard
> > > > --- In
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , T W S wrote:
> > > > > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the > > > > tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > > > From: bobs600honda
> > > > > To:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> > > > > �
> > > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > > Can any tire shop handle this?
> > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > Bob
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John E · Post by **John E** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:22 am

Does anyone know where you can find any 10 inch rims for a Honda 600 Sadan

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@... wrote:
> I would just put new tires back on. Coker has them in stock and will ship them to you door step and then you will most Likely never need to worry about that part again. I had to put a tube in one of my new tires cause it would not seal properly.
> Kurt
> On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Robert James wrote:
> > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes? Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James wrote:
> >> Well, I might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> >> Bob
> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman wrote:
> >>> It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> >>> If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> >>> Richard
> >>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, T W S wrote:
> >>> > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> >>> > From: bobs600honda
> >>> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> >>> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> >>> > Â
> >>> > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> >>> > Can any tire shop handle this?
> >>> > Thanks for any info.
> >>> > Bob

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:09 am

How many do you need? I have some.
From:
John E Sent:
6/27/2013 2:22 AM To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Subject:
[anzhonda600owners] Re: Tires / Rims
Does anyone know where you can find any 10 inch rims for a Honda 600 Sadan

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@... wrote:
> I would just put new tires back on. Coker has them in stock and will ship them to you door step and then you will most Likely never need to worry about that part again. I had to put a tube in one of my new tires cause it would not seal properly.
> Kurt
> On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Robert James wrote:
> > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes? Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James wrote:
> >> Well, I might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> >> Bob
> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman wrote:
> >>> It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> >>> If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> >>> Richard
> >>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, T W S wrote:
> >>> > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> >>> > From: bobs600honda
> >>> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> >>> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> >>> > Â
> >>> > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> >>> > Can any tire shop handle this?
> >>> > Thanks for any info.
> >>> > Bob