Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
Mark Portland Or.
www.mphspecialties.com
Gas Tank Woes
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Elias Baldwin
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Re: Gas Tank Woes
Mark, This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time. �
Good luck!
-Elias
Good luck!
-Elias
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
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> Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> �
> Mark
> Portland Or.
> www.mphspecialties.com
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Eric Geiger
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Re: Gas Tank Woes
ill be tackling this same project next week. any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
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On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Elias Baldwin wrote:
> Mark,
> This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain > plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, > and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape.
> Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
> Good luck!
> -Elias
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
> mphatten@...
> wrote:
> > Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and > > left me on the side of the road.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
> > www.mphspecialties.com
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Mark P Hatten
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Gas Tank Woes
The biggest tip is to drain the tank 1st.! haha. Dropping the tank is not hard, the hardest part for me was removing the access cover for the fill tube in the rear trunk. I again had to practice circus contortionism. My screws were rusted, the angle was difficult, and my snorkel mask hatch does not open.
Mark www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: egeiger@...
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
ill be tackling this same project next week. any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
Eric J. Geiger
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
Mark www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: egeiger@...
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
ill be tackling this same project next week. any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
Eric J. Geiger
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Elias Baldwin wrote:
> Mark,
> This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
> Good luck!
> -Elias
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
> mphatten@...
> wrote:
> > Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
> > www.mphspecialties.com
Re: Gas Tank Woes
Mark make sure you check the filter that is in the carb.
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Elias Baldwin wrote:
Mark, This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
Good luck!
-Elias
Sent from Samsung tablet
Elias Baldwin wrote:
Mark, This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
Good luck!
-Elias
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> Mark
> Portland Or.
> www.mphspecialties.com
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Mark P Hatten
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Re: Gas Tank Woes
Tom,
I recalled your advice and removed the tiny filter at the needle and seat, it was all deformed and crushed, probably plugging fuel flow.
Certainly can't hurt to remove it. In fact, I removed the same tiny filter on my Sedan carb as well, it too was crushed and probably plugging flow as well.
I'll post up results soon.
Mark www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: tdthies1@...
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:36:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
Mark make sure you check the filter that is in the carb.
Sent from Samsung tablet Elias Baldwin wrote:
Mark,
This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
Good luck!
-Elias
I recalled your advice and removed the tiny filter at the needle and seat, it was all deformed and crushed, probably plugging fuel flow.
Certainly can't hurt to remove it. In fact, I removed the same tiny filter on my Sedan carb as well, it too was crushed and probably plugging flow as well.
I'll post up results soon.
Mark www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: tdthies1@...
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:36:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
Mark make sure you check the filter that is in the carb.
Sent from Samsung tablet Elias Baldwin wrote:
Mark,
This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
Good luck!
-Elias
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> Mark
> Portland Or.
> www.mphspecialties.com
Re: Gas Tank Woes
The screen below the needle valve in the carb was a bit crushed when they were new. Just the nature of the thing. But leaving it out is not a good option. Because as most of us have found out just working on cars in general the fuel coming from a pump has crud in it. Take a clean glass jar and put an inch or so of gas in it and leave it over night. There will be a small amount of sediment in the jar the next day.
T he fuel filter gets most of it out but over time the sediment will form in the tank, the lines, pump and carb bowl. Otherwise why would new cars have fuel filters?
What most carb needle valve screens have on them is varnish from dried up fuel. Pull the screen off the needle valve seat, clean it with carb cleaner and reverse the flow with compressed air and put it back on.
Bill
T he fuel filter gets most of it out but over time the sediment will form in the tank, the lines, pump and carb bowl. Otherwise why would new cars have fuel filters?
What most carb needle valve screens have on them is varnish from dried up fuel. Pull the screen off the needle valve seat, clean it with carb cleaner and reverse the flow with compressed air and put it back on.
Bill