How does this work?

Robert Smith · Post by **Robert Smith** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:49 am

I recently joined the group. I got an email saying I was accepted. I want to search the conversations to see if the subject of scooter tires has been discussed. When I tried to search at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... ondas/info by using the rectangle at the top that says "Search Conversations" I got an error message saying I could not search because I am not a member.
I was logged in to Yahoo at the time.
The email also said I could register at Convact and get better service but when I followed the link to Convact there was no way to register.
How do I search the conversations?

feltonminicycle · Post by **feltonminicycle** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

dusty path · Post by **dusty path** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:34 am

scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires here Camac | 145R10 I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good Camac | 145R10 Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT, z600miles@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:

Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

art Remai · Post by **art Remai** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:20 am

Go here:
https://www.7ent.com/categories/wheels-tires/tires.html
Dont buy junk tires, not worth it.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:34 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires here Camac | 145R10 I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good Camac | 145R10 Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT,
z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

Chuck Dean · Post by **Chuck Dean** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:04 am

Looks like some good deals on good tires.
I bought 5 of the 165 by 10Yokohama tires from Tire Rack. A good tire, but a warning. The wider tire will not fit in the Honda 600 Coupe's spare tire well.
I asked the guy installing the tire at discount Tire to put one of the old 145s back on but he said he couldn't.
I drove around until I found a small independent tire store where nobody spoke much English and got them to put on the 145 for 10 bucks.= Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400

On Jun 26, 2019, at 7:20 AM, art Remai
artremai@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Go here:
https://www.7ent.com/categories/wheels-tires/tires.html
Dont buy junk tires, not worth it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:34 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires here > Camac | 145R10 > I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good > Camac | 145R10 > Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT, > z600miles@...
> [2cylinderhondas] 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

Robert Smith · Post by **Robert Smith** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:47 am

I recently joined the group and I am not sure how messaging works. I have a question so I am just going to ask it and see what happens. I built a landsailer and it uses 145R10 tires. Originally, it used 8 inch bias-ply boat trailer tires but I wanted to use radials. I bought a pair of wheels from a Z600, cut the center out, and welded the centers from boat trailer wheels to the Z600 rims to create wheels with the diameter, offset, and lug bolt pattern that I need. The tires are about 12 years old now and hard and slippery. New tires in that size are very expensive so I wonder if 10 inch scooter tires will work since they cost about 1/2 as much. The landsailer only weighs about 180 pounds so the scooter tires will not be overloaded.
My main concern is the bead seat area; is it the same on the scooter wheel as it is on the car wheel?
Google and I have not been able to find the answer. I want to stay with tubeless tires to keep rolling resistance low but I don't want to peel a tire off at high speed because of a poor seal at the bead. The faster a landsailer goes, the higher the side load on the tire. A few years ago, I saw a listing on the Barrett-Jackson auction website that showed many high-resolution pictures of a restored Z600 with scooter tires on the original wheels, so I know they will fit and hold air and they will support the car while it sits for pictures. I don't know what would happen when the car is driven or, more to the point, if they would be safe on my landsailer. I figure this is the place to ask if anybody has used scooter tires on their cars and lived to tell the tale.

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 07:34:23 AM CDT, dusty path dustyspath@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:

scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires here Camac | 145R10 I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good Camac | 145R10 Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT, z600miles@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

Robert Smith · Post by **Robert Smith** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:57 am

For those of you who are not familiar with landsailing, here is a good introductory video.
https://www.opb.org/television/programs ... ndsailing/

On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 08:47:56 AM CDT, Robert Smith emod22@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:

I recently joined the group and I am not sure how messaging works. I have a question so I am just going to ask it and see what happens. I built a landsailer and it uses 145R10 tires. Originally, it used 8 inch bias-ply boat trailer tires but I wanted to use radials. I bought a pair of wheels from a Z600, cut the center out, and welded the centers from boat trailer wheels to the Z600 rims to create wheels with the diameter, offset, and lug bolt pattern that I need. The tires are about 12 years old now and hard and slippery. New tires in that size are very expensive so I wonder if 10 inch scooter tires will work since they cost about 1/2 as much. The landsailer only weighs about 180 pounds so the scooter tires will not be overloaded.
My main concern is the bead seat area; is it the same on the scooter wheel as it is on the car wheel?
Google and I have not been able to find the answer. I want to stay with tubeless tires to keep rolling resistance low but I don't want to peel a tire off at high speed because of a poor seal at the bead. The faster a landsailer goes, the higher the side load on the tire. A few years ago, I saw a listing on the Barrett-Jackson auction website that showed many high-resolution pictures of a restored Z600 with scooter tires on the original wheels, so I know they will fit and hold air and they will support the car while it sits for pictures.. I don't know what would happen when the car is driven or, more to the point, if they would be safe on my landsailer. I figure this is the place to ask if anybody has used scooter tires on their cars and lived to tell the tale.
On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 07:34:23 AM CDT, dusty path dustyspath@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires here Camac | 145R10 I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good Camac | 145R10 Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT, z600miles@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

rstevens19 · Post by **rstevens19** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:13 am

Mr. Smith,
I owned a new Z600 back in the day, 1972. All Z600 Hondas were delivered with radial tires with tubes. When I wore out the original Bridgstones I replaced them with Michelins. The tires were again installed with radial tubes.
I understood, back then, that tubes were required because the wheels are NOT safety rims. Also, I agree with others that scooter tires are inappropriate as they are designed to transfer side loads via leaning rather than shear as automotive tires are designed. Also, scooter tires have a rounded profile to accommodate leaning which reduces road contact. Car tires have a flat profile to maximize road contact.
Hope this helps,
RS
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I recently joined the group and I am not sure how messaging works. I have a question so I am just going to ask it and see what happens. I built a landsailer and it uses 145R10 tires. Originally, it used 8 inch bias-ply boat trailer tires but I wanted to use radials. I bought a pair of wheels from a Z600, cut the center out, and welded the centers from boat trailer wheels to the Z600 rims to create wheels with the diameter, offset, and lug bolt pattern that I need. The tires are about 12 years old now and hard and slippery. New tires in that size are very expensive so I wonder if 10 inch scooter tires will work since they cost about 1/2 as much.   The landsailer only weighs about 180 pounds so the scooter tires will not be overloaded.
My main concern is the bead seat area; is it the same on the scooter wheel as it is on the car wheel?
Google and I have not been able to find the answer. I want to stay with tubeless tires to keep rolling resistance low but I don't want to peel a tire off at high speed because of a poor seal at the bead. The faster a landsailer goes, the higher the side load on the tire.   A few years ago, I saw a listing on the Barrett-Jackson auction website that showed many high-resolution pictures of a restored Z600 with scooter tires on the original wheels, so I know they will fit and hold air and they will support the car while it sits for pictures.. I don't know what would happen when the car is driven or, more to the point, if they would be safe on my landsailer. I figure this is the place to ask if anybody has used scooter tires on their cars and lived to tell the tale.
On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 07:34:23 AM CDT, dusty path dustyspath@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires   here Camac | 145R10        I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good
Camac | 145R10
Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT, z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires
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Don B Laughton · Post by **Don B Laughton** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:34 am

Here is a simple solution. I would imagine that there are people who build land sailors for resale. What do they recommend for tires. Having aTire fail at speed has got to be a serious product liability concern. They should have a safe recommendation.
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On Jun 27, 2019, at 6:57 AM, Robert Smith
emod22@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
For those of you who are not familiar with landsailing, here is a good introductory video.
https://www.opb.org/television/programs ... ndsailing/
On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 08:47:56 AM CDT, Robert Smith
emod22@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
I recently joined the group and I am not sure how messaging works. I have a question so I am just going to ask it and see what happens. I built a landsailer and it uses 145R10 tires. Originally, it used 8 inch bias-ply boat trailer tires but I wanted to use radials. I bought a pair of wheels from a Z600, cut the center out, and welded the centers from boat trailer wheels to the Z600 rims to create wheels with the diameter, offset, and lug bolt pattern that I need. The tires are about 12 years old now and hard and slippery. New tires in that size are very expensive so I wonder if 10 inch scooter tires will work since they cost about 1/2 as much. The landsailer only weighs about 180 pounds so the scooter tires will not be overloaded.
My main concern is the bead seat area; is it the same on the scooter wheel as it is on the car wheel?
Google and I have not been able to find the answer. I want to stay with tubeless tires to keep rolling resistance low but I don't want to peel a tire off at high speed because of a poor seal at the bead. The faster a landsailer goes, the higher the side load on the tire. A few years ago, I saw a listing on the Barrett-Jackson auction website that showed many high-resolution pictures of a restored Z600 with scooter tires on the original wheels, so I know they will fit and hold air and they will support the car while it sits for pictures... I don't know what would happen when the car is driven or, more to the point, if they would be safe on my landsailer. I figure this is the place to ask if anybody has used scooter tires on their cars and lived to tell the tale.
On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 07:34:23 AM CDT, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
scooter tires will not work why buy scooter tires im at a loss u can buy 4 tires for 288 free shipping on ebay or u can buy the tires here Camac | 145R10 I have 7,000 miles on mine there still working good Camac | 145R10 Looking for the perfect radial replacement tire for your 1959 through 1968 Mini Cooper? This is it, and its aff...
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT,
z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your results:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires

Robert Smith · Post by **Robert Smith** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:45 am

There are very few factory-made landsailers and none that I know of that use 10 inch car wheels or 10 inch scooter wheels.That reminds me; what is the rim width of a Z600 wheel. I would need that dimension to choose an appropriate scooter tire. I don't know if this message is going to one person or the whole group. I tried "reply on web page" but I got the error message saying I need to be a member of the group. AFAIK I am a new member. I am logged in to Yahoo. Do I need to do something else? How does this work?