Gas Tank Woes

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Mark P Hatten
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Gas Tank Woes

Post by Mark P Hatten »

Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
Mark Portland Or.
www.mphspecialties.com
Mark P Hatten
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Gas Tank Woes

Post by Mark P Hatten »

The biggest tip is to drain the tank 1st.!  haha.  Dropping the tank is not hard, the hardest part for me was removing the access cover for the fill tube in the rear trunk. I again had to practice circus contortionism. My screws were rusted, the angle was difficult, and my snorkel mask hatch does not open.
Mark www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: egeiger@...
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
ill be tackling this same project next week.   any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
Eric J. Geiger
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX  phone XXX-XXX-XXXX  fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX  mobile egeiger@...
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On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Elias Baldwin wrote:
> Mark,
> This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
> Good luck!
> -Elias
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
> mphatten@...
> wrote:
> > Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
> > www.mphspecialties.com
notrace07
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Re: Gas Tank Woes

Post by notrace07 »

Deja-voo anyone or is the Alzheimer's kicking in
On Feb 26, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
The biggest tip is to drain the tank 1st.!  haha.  Dropping the tank is not hard, the hardest part for me was removing the access cover for the fill tube in the rear trunk. I again had to practice circus contortionism. My screws were rusted, the angle was difficult, and my snorkel mask hatch does not open.
Mark
www.mphspecialties.com
To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
From:
egeiger@...
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
ill be tackling this same project next week.   any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
Eric J. Geiger
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX
phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX
fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX
mobile
egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Elias Baldwin wrote:
> Mark,
> This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
> Good luck!
> -Elias
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
> mphatten@...
> wrote:
> > Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
> > www.mphspecialties.com
Eric Geiger
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Re: Gas Tank Woes

Post by Eric Geiger »

When i went to pull my tank today the 3 bolts/nuts closest to the far of the car were seized up and forced the square nuts to just spin inside the little crown that is welded over them to the body.  i finally had to pry the lower body panel back ever so carefully and grab the bolts with a vise grips to unbolt them.  on the reinstall ill have to use regular nuts and some new longer bolts.
I don't have a welder so i can't weld new nuts onto the body.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:55 AM, Deja-voo anyone or is the Alzheimer's kicking in
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Mark P Hatten mphatten@...
> > wrote:
> > The biggest tip is to drain the tank 1st.!  haha.  Dropping the tank is not hard, the hardest part for me was removing the access cover for the fill tube in the rear trunk. I again had to practice circus contortionism. My screws were rusted, > > the angle was difficult, and my snorkel mask hatch does not open.
> > Mark
> > www.mphspecialties.com
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > From:
> > egeiger@...
> > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:08 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
> > ill be tackling this same project next week.   any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> >  phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> >  fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> >  mobile
> > egeiger@...
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Elias Baldwin wrote:
> > > Mark,
> > > This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain > > > plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, > > > and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape.
> > > Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
> > > Good luck!
> > > -Elias
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
> > > > > mphatten@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and > > > > left me on the side of the road.
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> > > > Mark
> > > > Portland Or.
> > > > www.mphspecialties.com
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Loren Kuipers
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Re: Gas Tank Woes

Post by Loren Kuipers »

eric
 try going to the hardware store and getting some nuts that have little grabbers for lack of a better way to say it, I think they are used a lot in furniture but should be able to be used for this job. Have used this trikk befor and it worked with new bolts they grab tight enough to hold for tightening.
 another way is to find some nuts from the auto parts store that go into old holes after enlarging them a little bit and replace the old nuts. I have used this trick as well
Loren K
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Mon, 3/11/13, Eric Geiger

wrote:
From: Eric Geiger
Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Gas Tank Woes
To: "" Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 6:44 PM
When i went to pull my tank today the 3 bolts/nuts closest to the far of the car were seized up and forced the square nuts to just spin inside the little crown that is welded over them to the body.  i finally had to pry the lower body panel back ever so carefully and grab the bolts with a vise grips to unbolt them.  on the reinstall ill have to use regular nuts and some new longer bolts.
I don't have a welder so i can't weld new nuts onto the body.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:55 AM, wrote:
> Deja-voo anyone or is the Alzheimer's kicking in
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Mark P Hatten mphatten@...
> > wrote:
> > The biggest tip is to drain the tank 1st.!  haha.  Dropping the tank is not hard, the hardest part for me was removing the access cover for the fill tube in the rear trunk. I again had to practice circus contortionism. My screws were rusted, the angle was difficult, and my snorkel mask hatch does not open.
> > Mark
> > www.mphspecialties.com
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > From:
> > egeiger@...
> > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:08 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Gas Tank Woes
> > ill be tackling this same project next week.   any tips for dropping/installing the tank again?
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> >  phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> >  fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> >  mobile
> > egeiger@...
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Elias Baldwin wrote:
> > > Mark,
> > > This past summer I removed, no joke, nearly two gallons of rust flakes from my Coupe's tank. Amazingly, the car was still running on what appeared to be a mixture of chocolate milk and river silt. I knew I had a problem when I removed the gas tank drain plug and nothing came out - I had to poke through the rust with a screwdriver to get the "gas" to drain. Bill steered me in the right direction. With a length of chain, I knocked all the particles free. Then, I used Bill Hirsch's motorcycle tank cleaner, etcher, and sealer kit. It took several days but I got the tank looking as good as new inside. I also found silt in the fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter, and of course, the carb bowl. I never would have predicted such as mess as the body of my car is in good shape. Just don't lose any of the six tank fittings in the grass like I did - searching for them added some time.
> > > Good luck!
> > > -Elias
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mark P Hatten
> > > > > mphatten@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Rust never sleeps. Rust is lives among us. Rust loves me. I think I figured out why I couldn't go any faster. Unnoticed rust stalactites growing in my tank plugged my filter which in turn starved my pump, then ran my carburetor out of fuel and left me on the side of the road.
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLRbBs5Rvs
> > > > Mark
> > > > Portland Or.
> > > > www.mphspecialties.com
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