hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated...paula
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misterpoopoohead
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
Hi Paula,
I think you'll find that most of us on the group would encourage you to simply repair and restore to stock running condition. What makes these cars cool is the two cylinder engine! You could also offer to sell one or more them. There are always others looking for one.
Any chance you can upload pics or tell us which years and models they are? I'm probably not the only one who is curious.
Kev Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Allen Brown
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[2cylinderhondas] conversion of honda 600 to electric
hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated. ..paula
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I think you'll find that most of us on the group would encourage you to simply repair and restore to stock running condition. What makes these cars cool is the two cylinder engine! You could also offer to sell one or more them. There are always others looking for one.
Any chance you can upload pics or tell us which years and models they are? I'm probably not the only one who is curious.
Kev Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Allen Brown
Date:
Mon, 31 May 2010 07:48:56 -0500
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electric conversion; Honda600 group
Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] conversion of honda 600 to electric
hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated. ..paula
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CHEYENNE FLETCHER
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
Roger that!!
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> misterpoopoohead@...
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> Hi Paula,
> I think you'll find that most of us on the group would
> encourage you to simply repair and restore to stock running condition. What > makes these cars cool is the two cylinder engine! You could also offer to sell > one or more them. There are always others looking for one.
> Any chance
> you can upload pics or tell us which years and models they are? I'm probably > not the only one who is curious.
> Kev
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> Allen Brown
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> Mon, 31 May 2010 07:48:56 -0500
> To:
> electric conversion; Honda600
> group
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> [2cylinderhondas] conversion of honda 600 to
> electric
> hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to > electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste > and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be > appreciated. ..paula
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
Paula,
It MAY be possible but I can say for sure that it is a major undertaking - as much work (or more) as repairing the car to run stock, just with different issues. Check out this really cool conversion of a Subaru 360...this guy took off the pistons and cylinders, kept the transmission, replaced the crankshaft with a straight rod, and merged an electric motor to it. Keeping the trans = go fast.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa15 ... ics253.jpg
PS: Converting to electric WILL cost more than fixing the regular motor.
Steve
It MAY be possible but I can say for sure that it is a major undertaking - as much work (or more) as repairing the car to run stock, just with different issues. Check out this really cool conversion of a Subaru 360...this guy took off the pistons and cylinders, kept the transmission, replaced the crankshaft with a straight rod, and merged an electric motor to it. Keeping the trans = go fast.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa15 ... ics253.jpg
PS: Converting to electric WILL cost more than fixing the regular motor.
Steve
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> honda 600 to electric
> hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to > electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste > and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be > appreciated. ..paula
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
Hi Paula,
Check with Tom in Ohio ( tom@...
). He monitors this newsgroup and has converted his Honda 600 sedan to electric. Here is what he told me;
That's my converted Honda at
http://www.evalbum. com/325.html
The $2000 cost is parts only, my hundreds of hours of labor were free, I guess.
Low cost listed there is due to:
1) surplus electric traction motor found for only around $300
2) lead acid batteries costing only about $70 each when I did it
3) controller costing only about $800 when I did it
4) all other mechanical and electrical parts being made by me
The 600 was a good choice when I first made this conversion in 1993. Very small and light with a sturdy chassis that seems to handle the battery weight OK.
16,000 miles (and two bodies) later we still use the car almost every day.
However, with parts becoming more scarce, plus the lighter, safer designed vehicles available today, I think I would start with a different vehicle for the conversion if I were starting now.
Tom
Converting your car to electric could become a major undertaking and it depends on how you want to use the car. If you goal is to have a car you drive in your local neighborhood and your top speed is going to be 25 mph, you could do the conversion by obtaining a used golf cart and putting its drive system into your car. If you are interested in a car which can be driven on the freeway and has a range of 100 miles before recharge, you would be better off buying an electric car instead of converting your Honda. For more information on converting your car to electric, check out one of the electric car groups (e.g.
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/ ).
If you are interested in a car which runs on an alternative energy source, you might consider converting your Honda car to run on alcohol or propane. Propane fuel has about the same energy content as gasoline and the conversion involves replacing the carb, fuel tank, and adjusting the timing. The fuel system for the car can be 2 of those propane tanks used on a propane grill. You fill them up just like you do for your grill.
Converting your car to alcohol (which has about half the energy content as gas) would involve rejetting the carb, changing out the fuel system from the gas tank to the carb (replacing all the "rubber" parts which used to handle gasoline including the gaskets and o-rings in the carb and at the intake manifold).
The timing would also need to be readjusted. The downside of a car running on alcohol (and you might want to run it on E85 instead of pure alcohol) is that alcohol absorbs moisture very readily and if you are not using your car frequently, the fuel may become spoiled from the moisture found in the air (i.e. humidity variations). The upside of alcohol is that you could make the alcohol yourself out of newspaper, junk mail, yard debris, food scraps, wood scraps, anything which is organic. You are pretty much becoming a moonshiner to produce alcohol fuel for your car.
good luck,
Dale
Check with Tom in Ohio ( tom@...
). He monitors this newsgroup and has converted his Honda 600 sedan to electric. Here is what he told me;
That's my converted Honda at
http://www.evalbum. com/325.html
The $2000 cost is parts only, my hundreds of hours of labor were free, I guess.
Low cost listed there is due to:
1) surplus electric traction motor found for only around $300
2) lead acid batteries costing only about $70 each when I did it
3) controller costing only about $800 when I did it
4) all other mechanical and electrical parts being made by me
The 600 was a good choice when I first made this conversion in 1993. Very small and light with a sturdy chassis that seems to handle the battery weight OK.
16,000 miles (and two bodies) later we still use the car almost every day.
However, with parts becoming more scarce, plus the lighter, safer designed vehicles available today, I think I would start with a different vehicle for the conversion if I were starting now.
Tom
Converting your car to electric could become a major undertaking and it depends on how you want to use the car. If you goal is to have a car you drive in your local neighborhood and your top speed is going to be 25 mph, you could do the conversion by obtaining a used golf cart and putting its drive system into your car. If you are interested in a car which can be driven on the freeway and has a range of 100 miles before recharge, you would be better off buying an electric car instead of converting your Honda. For more information on converting your car to electric, check out one of the electric car groups (e.g.
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/ ).
If you are interested in a car which runs on an alternative energy source, you might consider converting your Honda car to run on alcohol or propane. Propane fuel has about the same energy content as gasoline and the conversion involves replacing the carb, fuel tank, and adjusting the timing. The fuel system for the car can be 2 of those propane tanks used on a propane grill. You fill them up just like you do for your grill.
Converting your car to alcohol (which has about half the energy content as gas) would involve rejetting the carb, changing out the fuel system from the gas tank to the carb (replacing all the "rubber" parts which used to handle gasoline including the gaskets and o-rings in the carb and at the intake manifold).
The timing would also need to be readjusted. The downside of a car running on alcohol (and you might want to run it on E85 instead of pure alcohol) is that alcohol absorbs moisture very readily and if you are not using your car frequently, the fuel may become spoiled from the moisture found in the air (i.e. humidity variations). The upside of alcohol is that you could make the alcohol yourself out of newspaper, junk mail, yard debris, food scraps, wood scraps, anything which is organic. You are pretty much becoming a moonshiner to produce alcohol fuel for your car.
good luck,
Dale
> hey
> was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i > have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought > maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be > appreciated. ..paula
Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
It has been done.
Here's the first one I'd seen from a while back:
http://www.evalbum.com/325
Only goes 45 or 50 mph, but it is older technology.
Another on evalbum:
http://www.evalbum.com/1238
Look half way down on this page:
http://mind-temple.com/600/humor.htm
72hp motor to be installed later? Believe me - 70+ horsepower is fun in these little cars.
The one thing I would say though - please try to save as many parts as you can when you do the conversion. Keep the motors dry, don't let water into them. Someone on the list can use the parts!
Here's the first one I'd seen from a while back:
http://www.evalbum.com/325
Only goes 45 or 50 mph, but it is older technology.
Another on evalbum:
http://www.evalbum.com/1238
Look half way down on this page:
http://mind-temple.com/600/humor.htm
72hp motor to be installed later? Believe me - 70+ horsepower is fun in these little cars.
The one thing I would say though - please try to save as many parts as you can when you do the conversion. Keep the motors dry, don't let water into them. Someone on the list can use the parts!
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> hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated...paula
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lyletrudell
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
I agree, I hate to see anyone chop up rare and unusual cars.
The Honda 600 will run cheaper than any electric car.
I think when you look at the cost you will just restore your Honda's.
I hope!
Lyle
The Honda 600 will run cheaper than any electric car.
I think when you look at the cost you will just restore your Honda's.
I hope!
Lyle
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, "jpro8071" wrote:
> It has been done.
> Here's the first one I'd seen from a while back:
http://www.evalbum.com/325
> Only goes 45 or 50 mph, but it is older technology.
> Another on evalbum:
http://www.evalbum.com/1238
> Look half way down on this page:
http://mind-temple.com/600/humor.htm
> 72hp motor to be installed later? Believe me - 70+ horsepower is fun in these little cars.
> The one thing I would say though - please try to save as many parts as you can when you do the conversion. Keep the motors dry, don't let water into them. Someone on the list can use the parts!
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Allen Brown wrote:
> > hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated...paula
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bottom cop
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
I've been considering putting the body of a 600 on a frame designed similar to the Legend cars. They use an air cooled motor for racing but an old Legend builder and racer that I have been talking with said he would go with a water cooled motor for everday use. Just have to find the right motorcycle engine and use rear wheel drive. Google "Legend Cars" to see what I am talking about if you have never seen one. They use a fiberglass body. Wish someone was good with fiberglas that could build a complete 600 look-a-like. What a way to honor the cars without destroying those that are left.
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> From: Allen Brown
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] conversion of honda 600 to electric > To: "electric conversion" , "Honda600 group" > Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:48 AM
> hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated...paula
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Legend cars (was Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric)
Check out the third car on this page:
http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/20 ... onda-z600/
A better shot:
http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/picture ... 7&picnum=5
(I voted for the Jet Car . . . )
http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/20 ... onda-z600/
A better shot:
http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/picture ... 7&picnum=5
(I voted for the Jet Car . . . )
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, bottom cop wrote:
> I've been considering putting the body of a 600 on a frame designed similar to the Legend cars. They use an air cooled motor for racing but an old Legend builder and racer that I have been talking with said he would go with a water cooled motor for everday use. Just have to find the right motorcycle engine and use rear wheel drive. Google "Legend Cars" to see what I am talking about if you have never seen one. They use a fiberglass body. Wish someone was good with fiberglas that could build a complete 600 look-a-like. What a way to honor the cars without destroying those that are left.
> --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Allen Brown wrote:
> From: Allen Brown
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] conversion of honda 600 to electric
> To: "electric conversion" , "Honda600 group" Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:48 AM
> hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated...paula
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william esker
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Re: conversion of honda 600 to electric
don't listen to all these guys, i converted one of my two 600's to electric after talking to tom. the other one i'm restoring. go ahead and do it. i got all my parts fromEVA, great guys. if i deceide to i could back convert the car with little difficulty, the crank was shot anyway! Bill
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> From: Allen Brown
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] conversion of honda 600 to electric > To: "electric conversion" , "Honda600 group" > Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 5:48 AM
> hey was wondering if anyone knows about converting a honda 600 to electric...i have four of the little jewels just sitting here going to waste and thought maybe conversion is the answer...any help will be appreciated. ..paula
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