seals
seals
thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and will send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear window seals. I have done well with the shocks and caliper repair kits on the group ebay and craigs list so its time to give back and move on to the next part thanks kevin P.S. there will be no need to preorder I will bear the cost.
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Linda Classon
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Re: seals
I have a 71 sedan and am definitely interested in the door seals. Mine
are starting to crumble away so I'll be waiting to hear when they're
available.
Thanks for doing this for the group!
Linda
are starting to crumble away so I'll be waiting to hear when they're
available.
Thanks for doing this for the group!
Linda
On Apr 9, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Kevin wrote:
> thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and
> will send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear
> window seals. I have done well with the shocks and caliper repair
> kits on the group ebay and craigs list so its time to give back and
> move on to the next part thanks kevin P.S. there will be no need to
> preorder I will bear the cost.
> ------------------------------------
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Kevin Keough
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- Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:57 pm
Re: seals
--- On
Fri, 4/9/10, Linda Classon
wrote:
> From: Linda Classon
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 4:31 PM
> I have a 71 sedan and am definitely interested in the door seals. Mine > are starting to crumble away so I'll be waiting to hear when they're > available.
> Thanks for doing this for the group!
> Linda
> On Apr 9, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Kevin wrote:
> > thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and > > will send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear > > window seals. I have done well with the shocks and caliper repair > > kits on the group ebay and craigs list so its time to give back and > > move on to the next part thanks kevin P.S. there will be no need to > > preorder I will bear the cost.
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
Re: seals
If kevin doesn't know I already have them available and you don't have to wait for 10 people to purchase them.
Time proven and I have a chrome insert for them too.
Around $200? I have them for $232.00 for the front and $205.00 for the rear of a sedan. $232.00 for the Coupe front and $80.00 for the hatch seal. also have door seals like originals and roof weather strips for the coupe. This is brand new and the corners are shaped to fit the windshield. I have offered them to other owners for over 15 years.
Bill
Time proven and I have a chrome insert for them too.
Around $200? I have them for $232.00 for the front and $205.00 for the rear of a sedan. $232.00 for the Coupe front and $80.00 for the hatch seal. also have door seals like originals and roof weather strips for the coupe. This is brand new and the corners are shaped to fit the windshield. I have offered them to other owners for over 15 years.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > Kevin > Sent:
> Friday, April 09, 2010 9:15
> AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] seals
> thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and will > send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear window seals. I > have done well with the shocks and caliper repair kits on the group ebay and > craigs list so its time to give back and move on to the next part thanks kevin > P.S. there will be no need to preorder I will bear the cost.
Re: seals
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Windshield seals;
Lately I have seen some e-mails of owners looking to get a windshield seal or gasket made for the Honda 600 sedan and coupe.
The short story is a quality product will cost more than a cheap product.
You will need the right amount of rubber on both sides of the windshield and the car's body to hold it in place. If it is less then the windshield seal is not safe. 3M stopped selling windshield rope (a sticky product used to hold windshields in place without a seal) to the public because they (we) used it without consideration for the controls and safety needed to ensure the windshield would seal, and would stay in place. They saw the liability and removed the cause.
The long story is.....
I have had them made for a number of years and lived through a number of price increases to the costs of rubber (it is made from oil by-products) which have a tendency to increase with the change of the wind. So the price of the product goes up accordingly. I have them made by a company that owns the rights to shaping the corners (which adds to their cost) but there is less stress on the rubber from stretching in the corners. Stressing the rubber causes premature ageing which makes the rubber look old and even fail. Other companies use a twisting method, this works, but makes it necessary to stretch the rubber some to make it fit, which causes it to stress and crack. Some owners have said this is a high price for a small car, I agree, the price is up there.
But, price out a windshield seal for a new Honda Fit or a Honda Civic, they are in the 3 to 4 hundred range. Then you're out another $80 to $100 to have it put in. They (the windshield guy) charge according to the insurance they have to cover damages to windshields that brake while they are trying to put them in.
What goes into the price of the rubber?
The make up of the rubber product directly affects the cost of the item. Some have a hardness quality that needs to be maintained other items need to have a resiliency to sun and the effects the sun has to the rubber. Which is the amount of carbon the rubber has in it.
Saying you can have this or that made for a lesser price has to be looked at for the quality of the rubber being used. Can I get them made for much less, sure. There are a couple of companies out there making a rubber product for much less. But there are questions that have to be asked, will it last? What is its resiliency to the sun and will it hold the windshield in place during an accident? The product I use has proven to be resilient to the sun, stays pliable for many years (I have changed out the chrome strip several times in my cars over the years) and the rubber seal stays pliable making it easy to change out the chrome strip. The seal is made to the exact dimensions Honda used, it goes in without extra sealant and fits like a glove. The ends are not glued together so that extra rubber can be pushed into the window frame to keep the shrinking from leaving a gap in the seal that all Honda 600's have. Mine don't.
Cost:
What I try and cover is the cost of having them made for other Honda 600 owners.
Since the company I use purchases the rubber compound in 55 gallon drums (which is most likely they way all manufacturers purchase it) having one seal made is very expensive as all the product has to be used right away or it hardens and is useless. So I have an agreement that I wait until they (the company) has enough orders to use all the product. When I say orders I am speaking of other types of molds or parts for other cars using the same compound. Some times this will take several weeks to pull together and this is where the 6 to 8 weeks of wait time comes in to play.
Then there is shipping. Shipping from the manufacturer to me so I can inspect it and then send it to you. That can be 5% to 8% of the total cost of the item. I look at the rubber because QC or quality control, is necessary to keep you the owner happy. If I will put them on my car then I send them out. Many of you can remember or know of the Sedan rubber sway bar bushings Honda sold, they could be squeezed into a ball by your hand. I make them out of 80 shore (shore is a hardness quality of the rubber) and you can not squeeze them out of shape with your hand or even a vice. That is because I needed them for my Honda 600's and I needed them to be right both in looks and function.
So, you say, I must be making something off the sale of these items. Well, really not. Some days it is $10.00 other days it is $6.00. The cost changes with the cost of the many hands touching it. I just raised the price from $230.00 to $232.00 because shipping and taxes went up and It cost me $2.00 to send out a couple of seals. That is $2.00 out of my pocket to sell it.
End of Story.
By the way, I have some side marker lenses both amber and red, coming in the next month or so. They look just like the originals. Yes, I needed them for my cars. So you make out.
Bill
Windshield seals;
Lately I have seen some e-mails of owners looking to get a windshield seal or gasket made for the Honda 600 sedan and coupe.
The short story is a quality product will cost more than a cheap product.
You will need the right amount of rubber on both sides of the windshield and the car's body to hold it in place. If it is less then the windshield seal is not safe. 3M stopped selling windshield rope (a sticky product used to hold windshields in place without a seal) to the public because they (we) used it without consideration for the controls and safety needed to ensure the windshield would seal, and would stay in place. They saw the liability and removed the cause.
The long story is.....
I have had them made for a number of years and lived through a number of price increases to the costs of rubber (it is made from oil by-products) which have a tendency to increase with the change of the wind. So the price of the product goes up accordingly. I have them made by a company that owns the rights to shaping the corners (which adds to their cost) but there is less stress on the rubber from stretching in the corners. Stressing the rubber causes premature ageing which makes the rubber look old and even fail. Other companies use a twisting method, this works, but makes it necessary to stretch the rubber some to make it fit, which causes it to stress and crack. Some owners have said this is a high price for a small car, I agree, the price is up there.
But, price out a windshield seal for a new Honda Fit or a Honda Civic, they are in the 3 to 4 hundred range. Then you're out another $80 to $100 to have it put in. They (the windshield guy) charge according to the insurance they have to cover damages to windshields that brake while they are trying to put them in.
What goes into the price of the rubber?
The make up of the rubber product directly affects the cost of the item. Some have a hardness quality that needs to be maintained other items need to have a resiliency to sun and the effects the sun has to the rubber. Which is the amount of carbon the rubber has in it.
Saying you can have this or that made for a lesser price has to be looked at for the quality of the rubber being used. Can I get them made for much less, sure. There are a couple of companies out there making a rubber product for much less. But there are questions that have to be asked, will it last? What is its resiliency to the sun and will it hold the windshield in place during an accident? The product I use has proven to be resilient to the sun, stays pliable for many years (I have changed out the chrome strip several times in my cars over the years) and the rubber seal stays pliable making it easy to change out the chrome strip. The seal is made to the exact dimensions Honda used, it goes in without extra sealant and fits like a glove. The ends are not glued together so that extra rubber can be pushed into the window frame to keep the shrinking from leaving a gap in the seal that all Honda 600's have. Mine don't.
Cost:
What I try and cover is the cost of having them made for other Honda 600 owners.
Since the company I use purchases the rubber compound in 55 gallon drums (which is most likely they way all manufacturers purchase it) having one seal made is very expensive as all the product has to be used right away or it hardens and is useless. So I have an agreement that I wait until they (the company) has enough orders to use all the product. When I say orders I am speaking of other types of molds or parts for other cars using the same compound. Some times this will take several weeks to pull together and this is where the 6 to 8 weeks of wait time comes in to play.
Then there is shipping. Shipping from the manufacturer to me so I can inspect it and then send it to you. That can be 5% to 8% of the total cost of the item. I look at the rubber because QC or quality control, is necessary to keep you the owner happy. If I will put them on my car then I send them out. Many of you can remember or know of the Sedan rubber sway bar bushings Honda sold, they could be squeezed into a ball by your hand. I make them out of 80 shore (shore is a hardness quality of the rubber) and you can not squeeze them out of shape with your hand or even a vice. That is because I needed them for my Honda 600's and I needed them to be right both in looks and function.
So, you say, I must be making something off the sale of these items. Well, really not. Some days it is $10.00 other days it is $6.00. The cost changes with the cost of the many hands touching it. I just raised the price from $230.00 to $232.00 because shipping and taxes went up and It cost me $2.00 to send out a couple of seals. That is $2.00 out of my pocket to sell it.
End of Story.
By the way, I have some side marker lenses both amber and red, coming in the next month or so. They look just like the originals. Yes, I needed them for my cars. So you make out.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > brucerb@...
> Sent:
> Friday, April 09, 2010 9:50
> AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re:
> [2cylinderhondas] seals
> how about the
> rear window gasket for the sedan?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> "Kevin"
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, April 9, 2010
> 9:15:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas]
> seals
> thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and will > send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear window seals. I > have done well with the shocks and caliper repair kits on the group ebay and > craigs list so its time to give back and move on to the next part thanks kevin > P.S. there will be no need to preorder I will bear the cost.
Re: seals
Bill,
Do you have the molds for the S800 windshield rubber? specifically the rubber part that sits underneath the windshield?
Thanks,
Chuck M.
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com; 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Do you have the molds for the S800 windshield rubber? specifically the rubber part that sits underneath the windshield?
Thanks,
Chuck M.
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com; 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
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Fox William
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Re: seals
Anything for the s600? roadster
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jeremy grosvenor
- Posts: 17
- Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:32 pm
Re: VOLTAGE REGULATOR
Looking for a voltage regulator...
--- On
Sun, 4/11/10, Fox, William
wrote:
> From: Fox, William
> Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> To: "2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com" > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 9:08 AM
> Anything for the s600? roadster
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of billmyong@earthlink .net [billmyong@earthlin k.net]
> Sent:
> Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:40 AM
> To:
> Anzhonda600owners; 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject:
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> �
> Windshield seals;
> Lately I have seen some e-mails of owners looking to get a windshield seal or gasket made for the Honda 600 sedan and coupe.
> The short story is a quality product will cost more than a cheap product. You will need the right amount of rubber on both sides of the windshield and the car's body to hold > it in place. If it is less then the windshield seal is not safe. 3M stopped selling windshield rope (a sticky product used to hold windshields in place without a seal) to the public because they (we) used it without consideration for the controls and safety > needed to ensure the windshield would seal, and would stay in place. They saw the liability and removed the cause.
> The long story is.....
> I have had them made for a number of years and lived through a number of price increases to the costs of rubber (it is made from oil by-products) which have a tendency to increase > with the change of the wind. So the price of the product goes up accordingly. I have them made by a company that owns the rights to shaping the corners (which adds to their cost) but there is less stress on the rubber from stretching in the corners. Stressing > the rubber causes premature ageing which makes the rubber look old and even fail. Other companies use a twisting method, this works, but makes it necessary to stretch the rubber some to make it fit, which causes it to stress and crack. Some owners have said > this is a high price for a small car, I agree, the price is up there.
> But, price out a
> windshield seal for a new Honda Fit or a Honda Civic, they are in the 3 to 4 hundred range. Then you're out another $80 to $100 to have it put in. They (the windshield guy) charge according to the insurance they have to cover damages to windshields that > brake while they are trying to put them in.
> What goes into the price of the rubber?
> The make up of the rubber product directly affects the cost of the item. Some have a hardness quality that needs to be maintained other items need to have a resiliency to sun > and the effects the sun has to the rubber. Which is the amount of carbon the rubber has in it. Saying you can have this or that made for a lesser price has to be looked at for the quality of the rubber being used. Can I get them made for much less, sure.
> There are a couple of companies out there making a rubber product for much less. But there are questions that have to be asked, will it last? What is its resiliency to the sun and will it hold the windshield in place during an accident? The product I use has > proven to be resilient to the sun, stays pliable for many years (I have changed out the chrome strip several times in my cars over the years) and the rubber seal stays pliable making it easy to change out the chrome strip. The seal is made to the exact dimensions > Honda used, it goes in without extra sealant and fits like a glove. The ends are not glued together so that extra rubber can be pushed into the window frame to keep the shrinking from leaving a gap in the seal that all Honda 600's have. Mine don't.
> Cost:
> What I try and cover is the cost of having them made for other Honda 600 owners. Since the company I use purchases the rubber compound in 55 gallon drums (which is most likely > they way all manufacturers purchase it) having one seal made is very expensive as all the product has to be used right away or it hardens and is useless. So I have an agreement that I wait until they (the company) has enough orders to use all the product.
> When I say orders I am speaking of other types of molds or parts for other cars using the same compound. Some times this will take several weeks to pull together and this is where the 6 to 8 weeks of wait time comes in to play.
> Then there is shipping. Shipping from the manufacturer to me so I can inspect it and then send it to you. That can be 5% to 8% of the total cost of the item. I look at the > rubber because QC or quality control, is necessary to keep you the owner happy. If I will put them on my car then I send them out. Many of you can remember or know of the Sedan rubber sway bar bushings Honda sold, they could be squeezed into a ball by your > hand. I make them out of 80 shore (shore is a hardness quality of the rubber) and you can not squeeze them out of shape with your hand or even a vice. That is because I needed them for my Honda 600's and I needed them to be right both in looks and function.
> So, you say, I must be making something off the sale of these items. Well, really not. Some days it is $10.00 other days it is $6.00. The cost changes with the cost of the > many hands touching it. I just raised the price from $230.00 to $232.00 because shipping and taxes went up and It cost me $2.00 to send out a couple of seals. That is $2.00 out of my pocket to sell it.
> End of Story.
> By the way, I have some side marker lenses both amber and red, coming in the next month or so. They look just like the originals. Yes, I needed them for my cars. So you make > out.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > On Behalf Of
> > brucerb@comcast. net
> > Sent:
> > Friday, April 09, 2010 9:50 AM
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> > how about the rear window gasket for the sedan?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin"
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, April 9, 2010 9:15:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> > thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and will send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear window seals. I have done well with the shocks and caliper repair kits on the group ebay and craigs list so its time to > > give back and move on to the next part thanks kevin P.S. there will be no need to preorder I will bear the cost.
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feltonminicycle
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Re: wrong group VOLTAGE REGULATOR
Bill Fox would be looking for an s600 regulator, doubt you will find many s600 or s800 parts in this group, you'd have to go to my other group where I think Bill is a member.
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, jeremy grosvenor wrote:
> Looking for a voltage regulator...
> --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Fox, William wrote:
> From: Fox, William
> Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 9:08 AM
> Anything for the s600? roadster
> From: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of billmyong@earthlink .net [billmyong@earthlin k.net]
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:40 AM
> To: Anzhonda600owners; 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] seals
>
> Windshield seals;
> Lately I have seen some e-mails of owners looking to get a windshield seal or gasket made for the Honda 600 sedan and coupe.
> The short story is a quality product will cost more than a cheap product. You will need the right amount of rubber on both sides of the windshield and the car's body to hold
> it in place. If it is less then the windshield seal is not safe. 3M stopped selling windshield rope (a sticky product used to hold windshields in place without a seal) to the public because they (we) used it without consideration for the controls and safety
> needed to ensure the windshield would seal, and would stay in place. They saw the liability and removed the cause.
> The long story is.....
> I have had them made for a number of years and lived through a number of price increases to the costs of rubber (it is made from oil by-products) which have a tendency to increase
> with the change of the wind. So the price of the product goes up accordingly. I have them made by a company that owns the rights to shaping the corners (which adds to their cost) but there is less stress on the rubber from stretching in the corners. Stressing
> the rubber causes premature ageing which makes the rubber look old and even fail. Other companies use a twisting method, this works, but makes it necessary to stretch the rubber some to make it fit, which causes it to stress and crack. Some owners have said
> this is a high price for a small car, I agree, the price is up there. But, price out a
> windshield seal for a new Honda Fit or a Honda Civic, they are in the 3 to 4 hundred range. Then you're out another $80 to $100 to have it put in. They (the windshield guy) charge according to the insurance they have to cover damages to windshields that
> brake while they are trying to put them in.
> What goes into the price of the rubber?
> The make up of the rubber product directly affects the cost of the item. Some have a hardness quality that needs to be maintained other items need to have a resiliency to sun
> and the effects the sun has to the rubber. Which is the amount of carbon the rubber has in it. Saying you can have this or that made for a lesser price has to be looked at for the quality of the rubber being used. Can I get them made for much less, sure.
> There are a couple of companies out there making a rubber product for much less. But there are questions that have to be asked, will it last? What is its resiliency to the sun and will it hold the windshield in place during an accident? The product I use has
> proven to be resilient to the sun, stays pliable for many years (I have changed out the chrome strip several times in my cars over the years) and the rubber seal stays pliable making it easy to change out the chrome strip. The seal is made to the exact dimensions
> Honda used, it goes in without extra sealant and fits like a glove. The ends are not glued together so that extra rubber can be pushed into the window frame to keep the shrinking from leaving a gap in the seal that all Honda 600's have. Mine don't.
> Cost:
> What I try and cover is the cost of having them made for other Honda 600 owners. Since the company I use purchases the rubber compound in 55 gallon drums (which is most likely
> they way all manufacturers purchase it) having one seal made is very expensive as all the product has to be used right away or it hardens and is useless. So I have an agreement that I wait until they (the company) has enough orders to use all the product.
> When I say orders I am speaking of other types of molds or parts for other cars using the same compound. Some times this will take several weeks to pull together and this is where the 6 to 8 weeks of wait time comes in to play.
> Then there is shipping. Shipping from the manufacturer to me so I can inspect it and then send it to you. That can be 5% to 8% of the total cost of the item. I look at the
> rubber because QC or quality control, is necessary to keep you the owner happy. If I will put them on my car then I send them out. Many of you can remember or know of the Sedan rubber sway bar bushings Honda sold, they could be squeezed into a ball by your
> hand. I make them out of 80 shore (shore is a hardness quality of the rubber) and you can not squeeze them out of shape with your hand or even a vice. That is because I needed them for my Honda 600's and I needed them to be right both in looks and function.
> So, you say, I must be making something off the sale of these items. Well, really not. Some days it is $10.00 other days it is $6.00. The cost changes with the cost of the
> many hands touching it. I just raised the price from $230.00 to $232.00 because shipping and taxes went up and It cost me $2.00 to send out a couple of seals. That is $2.00 out of my pocket to sell it.
> End of Story.
> By the way, I have some side marker lenses both amber and red, coming in the next month or so. They look just like the originals. Yes, I needed them for my cars. So you make
> out.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of
> brucerb@comcast. net
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:50 AM
> To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> how about the rear window gasket for the sedan?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin"
> To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, April 9, 2010 9:15:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] seals
> thanks for the input guys i talked to the extruder this morning and will send them a piece of the windshield seal and the door and rear window seals. I have done well with the shocks and caliper repair kits on the group ebay and craigs list so its time to
> give back and move on to the next part thanks kevin P.S. there will be no need to preorder I will bear the cost.