Is the camshaft for the coupe the same as the sedan?
Thanks,
Tom
camshaft question
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Kevin Keough
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Re: camshaft question
yes
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> From: franknfike
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:27 PM
> Is the camshaft for the coupe the same as the sedan?
> Thanks,
> Tom
Re: camshaft question
All;
No, the cam shaft on the coupe will work on the sedan, not the reverse unless you don't want the tach to work.
Bill
No, the cam shaft on the coupe will work on the sedan, not the reverse unless you don't want the tach to work.
Bill
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> wrote:
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> > franknfike
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
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> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
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> > 2009, 7:27 PM
> > Is the camshaft for the coupe the same as the sedan?
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
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Kevin Keough
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Re: camshaft question
hay tom check to see if the new cam is tapped to recieve the tac gear. that's is the diffrence in the two cams. you may be able to have your repaired at a local cam shop or I have a good one if you would email me Kevin
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> From: billmyong@...
> Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> To: "Anzhonda600owners" , 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 5:45 AM
> All;
> No, the cam shaft on the coupe will work on the sedan, not the reverse unless you don't want the tach to work.
> Bill
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> > From:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > On Behalf Of > > Kevin Keough > > Sent:
> > Friday, August 21, 2009 1:03 PM
> > To:
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> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> > yes
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> > Fri, 8/21/09, franknfike
> >
> > wrote:
> > > From: franknfike
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> > > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:27 PM
> > > Is the camshaft for the coupe the same as the sedan?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom
Re: camshaft question
Kevin;
A few years back I needed a good cam for a coupe engine I was rebuilding. I did the same thing your suggesting, it is more than a simple set of threads the end of the cam. The drive shaft for the tach is counter sunk and requires an exact fit with the additional set of 6mm X 1.0 pitch threads in the bottom of that. The shop I took it to said the cam was so hard that when they were finished the recessed opening was 2 thousandths over the requirement which would cause a vibration at the end of the tack drive shaft when it is at speed.
You may come across a machine shop that is better, but I doubt it, this shop is contracted by the military for Air Industry tooling. But because the cam had been heated and cooled so many times it became so hard that normal cutters wouldn't do the job. They did it for me because I knew them and it is rare that a part comes in with these challenges. I used some 1 thousandth shim stock to wrap around the cam drive shaft and it worked very well. If they had to charge me for the job it would have been expensive.
What I am saying here is that the cost of the repair may be more than the need requires. There are lots of Coupe type cam shafts out there. Make sure the cam is good by measuring the lobes, wear areas of the shaft ends and how deep the valleys are between the teeth on the center gear. All of which affect the final outcome of the end product. The shop manual has these measurements and it's much easier to measure while the engine is apart.
Have fun
Bill
A few years back I needed a good cam for a coupe engine I was rebuilding. I did the same thing your suggesting, it is more than a simple set of threads the end of the cam. The drive shaft for the tach is counter sunk and requires an exact fit with the additional set of 6mm X 1.0 pitch threads in the bottom of that. The shop I took it to said the cam was so hard that when they were finished the recessed opening was 2 thousandths over the requirement which would cause a vibration at the end of the tack drive shaft when it is at speed.
You may come across a machine shop that is better, but I doubt it, this shop is contracted by the military for Air Industry tooling. But because the cam had been heated and cooled so many times it became so hard that normal cutters wouldn't do the job. They did it for me because I knew them and it is rare that a part comes in with these challenges. I used some 1 thousandth shim stock to wrap around the cam drive shaft and it worked very well. If they had to charge me for the job it would have been expensive.
What I am saying here is that the cost of the repair may be more than the need requires. There are lots of Coupe type cam shafts out there. Make sure the cam is good by measuring the lobes, wear areas of the shaft ends and how deep the valleys are between the teeth on the center gear. All of which affect the final outcome of the end product. The shop manual has these measurements and it's much easier to measure while the engine is apart.
Have fun
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > Kevin Keough > Sent:
> Friday, August 21, 2009 11:13
> PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> RE:
> [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> hay tom check to see if the new cam is tapped to
> recieve the tac gear. that's is the diffrence in the two cams. you > may be able to have your repaired at a local cam shop or I have a > good one if you would email me Kevin > --- On > Sat, > 8/22/09, billmyong@earthlink .net
>
> wrote:
> > From:
> > billmyong@earthlink .net
> >
> > Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas]
> > camshaft question
> > To: "Anzhonda600owners"
> > ,
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, August
> > 22, 2009, 5:45 AM
> > All;
> > No, the cam shaft on the
> > coupe will work on the sedan, not the reverse unless you don't want > > the tach to work.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > On > > > Behalf Of > > > Kevin Keough > > > Sent:
> > > Friday, August 21, 2009
> > > 1:03 PM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.
> > > com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft
> > > question
> > > yes
> > > --- On
> > > Fri, 8/21/09, franknfike
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > From:
> > > > franknfike > > > > Subject:
> > > > [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question > > > > To: 2cylinderhondas@ > > > > yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:27 > > > > PM
> > > > Is the camshaft for the coupe the same as the sedan?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tom
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Re: camshaft question
thanks for the info bill I do have a local cam grinder that has repaired 600 cams for me he had three cams in stock when I contacted him about repair. but thanks for the info im shure it will be useful for others Kevin
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Sat, 8/22/09, billmyong@...
wrote:
> From: billmyong@...
> Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> To: "Anzhonda600owners" , 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 5:57 PM
> Kevin;
> A few years back I needed a good cam for a coupe engine I was rebuilding. I did the same thing your suggesting, it is more than a simple set of threads the end of the cam. The drive shaft for the tach is counter sunk and requires an exact fit with the additional set of 6mm X 1.0 pitch threads in the bottom of that. The shop I took it to said the cam was so hard that when they were finished the recessed opening was 2 thousandths over the requirement which would cause a vibration at the end of the tack drive shaft when it is at speed.
> You may come across a machine shop that is better, but I doubt it, this shop is contracted by the military for Air Industry tooling. But because the cam had been heated and cooled so many times it became so hard that normal cutters wouldn't do the job. They did it for me because I knew them and it is rare that a part comes in with these challenges. I used some 1 thousandth shim stock to wrap around the cam drive shaft and it worked very well. If they had to charge me for the job it would have been expensive.
> What I am saying here is that the cost of the repair may be more than the need requires. There are lots of Coupe type cam shafts out there. Make sure the cam is good by measuring the lobes, wear areas of the shaft ends and how deep the valleys are between the teeth on the center gear. All of which affect the final outcome of the end product. The shop manual has these measurements and it's much easier to measure while the engine is apart..
> Have fun
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > On Behalf Of > > Kevin Keough > > Sent:
> > Friday, August 21, 2009 11:13 PM
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > RE: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> > hay tom check to see if the new cam is tapped to recieve the tac gear. that's is the diffrence in the two cams. you may be able to have your repaired at a local cam shop or I have a good one if you would email me Kevin > > --- On > > Sat, 8/22/09, billmyong@earthlink .net > > > > wrote:
> > > From: billmyong@earthlink .net > > > Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question > > > To: "Anzhonda600owners" , 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 5:45 AM
> > > All;
> > > No, the cam shaft on the coupe will work on the sedan, not the reverse unless you don't want the tach to work.
> > > Bill
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Kevin Keough > > > > Sent:
> > > > Friday, August 21, 2009 1:03 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> > > > yes
> > > > --- On
> > > > Fri, 8/21/09, franknfike
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > From: franknfike
> > > > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] camshaft question
> > > > > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:27 PM
> > > > > Is the camshaft for the coupe the same as the sedan?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tom
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