brake line bleeder and nut

kevin.gailey · Post by **kevin.gailey** » Sat May 16, 2009 12:14 am

I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
Thanks in advance
Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Miles · Post by **Miles** » Sat May 16, 2009 3:43 pm

6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> Thanks in advance
> Thanks, Kevin Gailey

riceburner006 · Post by **riceburner006** » Sat May 16, 2009 4:49 pm

---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, "Miles" wrote:

> 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > Thanks in advance
> > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Miles · Post by **Miles** » Sun May 17, 2009 10:25 am

Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "riceburner006" wrote:
> ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Miles" wrote:
> > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > Miles
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Kevin Gailey · Post by **Kevin Gailey** » Sun May 17, 2009 10:33 am

Thanks Miles, I guess I will need them as well as the ones for the lines exiting the master cylinder are shot. I have rounded these as well, maybe time for a double flare tool. Are the these standard or impossible for mortal humans like myself to get a hold of as well. Can you link me the site to buy these bad boys.
The board is awesome!
Kevin Gailey From:
Miles To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:25:41 AM Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] Re: brake line bleeder and nut
Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "riceburner006" wrote:
> ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "Miles" wrote:
> > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > Miles
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Miles · Post by **Miles** » Sun May 17, 2009 10:34 am

OK, here's the info:
Here's a great link contact I picked up from another vintage group:
http://www.cunifer.com/?page=home
http://store.fedhillusa.com/316475mmtubingandnuts.aspx
They have the M10 x 1.25 pitch flare nuts for our cars in stock under Part Number M7L-3. Also look into their copper-nickel alloy brake line tubing, claimed to be much easier to work with than conventional steel tubing. Rusted brake lines are dangerous; they can fail at any time, but especially in an emergency when you have to really jump on the brakes.
Norm

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Miles" wrote:
> Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "riceburner006" wrote:
> > ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> > In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Miles" wrote:
> > > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > > Miles
> > > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Kevin Gailey · Post by **Kevin Gailey** » Sun May 17, 2009 11:47 pm

Thanks again for the info Miles. I am pulling brake pistons and master and noticed I had a 5/8 rear wheel cylinder and you did not have them in your 600 store on ebay, are you out of them?
Is it easy just to order them from someone else or buy a new interchangeable wheel cylinder. I plan on ordering all these parts next week from you.
Thanks Again, Kevin Gailey From:
Miles To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:33:51 AM Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] Re: brake line bleeder and nut
OK, here's the info:
Here's a great link contact I picked up from another vintage group:
http://www.cunifer. com/?page= home
http://store. fedhillusa. com/316475mmtubi ngandnuts. aspx
They have the M10 x 1.25 pitch flare nuts for our cars in stock under Part Number M7L-3. Also look into their copper-nickel alloy brake line tubing, claimed to be much easier to work with than conventional steel tubing. Rusted brake lines are dangerous; they can fail at any time, but especially in an emergency when you have to really jump on the brakes.
Norm

--- In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "Miles" wrote:
> Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "riceburner006" wrote:
> > ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> > In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "Miles" wrote:
> > > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > > Miles
> > > --- In
2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Miles · Post by **Miles** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:13 pm

I bought mine at Sears for under $30.00 but here's one that might be better quality avail. at Sears.com for about $40.00. You must use a *double flaring tool* or your lines will leak. Here's the link:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... aring+tool
And if you but the one from that company that sells the flare nuts it will set you back $369.00 as I recall.
********************************************************

> OK, here's the info:
> Here's a great link contact I picked up from another vintage group:
> http://www.cunifer. com/?page= home
> http://store. fedhillusa. com/316475mmtubi ngandnuts. aspx
> They have the M10 x 1.25 pitch flare nuts for our cars in stock under Part Number M7L-3. Also look into their copper-nickel alloy brake line tubing, claimed to be much easier to work with than conventional steel tubing. Rusted brake lines are dangerous; they can fail at any time, but especially in an emergency when you have to really jump on the brakes.
> Norm
> --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles" wrote:
> > Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
> > Miles
> > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "riceburner006" wrote:
> > > ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> > > In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles" wrote:
> > > > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > > > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > > > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > > > Miles
> > > > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

Kevin Gailey · Post by **Kevin Gailey** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:25 pm

O.K. I just about have all my resources lined up for ordering of my brake parts, except.... What size are the brake line and fuel lines?
Thanks, Kevin Gailey From:
Miles To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Monday, May 18, 2009 9:12:46 PM Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] Re: brake line bleeder and nut
I bought mine at Sears for under $30.00 but here's one that might be better quality avail. at Sears.com for about $40.00. You must use a *double flaring tool* or your lines will leak. Here's the link:
http://www.sears. com/shc/s/ p_10153_12605_ 00960653000P? keyword=flaring+ tool
And if you but the one from that company that sells the flare nuts it will set you back $369.00 as I recall.
************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********

> OK, here's the info:
> Here's a great link contact I picked up from another vintage group:
http://www.cunifer
. com/?page= home
http://store
. fedhillusa. com/316475mmtubi ngandnuts. aspx
> They have the M10 x 1.25 pitch flare nuts for our cars in stock under Part Number M7L-3. Also look into their copper-nickel alloy brake line tubing, claimed to be much easier to work with than conventional steel tubing. Rusted brake lines are dangerous; they can fail at any time, but especially in an emergency when you have to really jump on the brakes.
> Norm
> --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles" wrote:
> > Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
> > Miles
> > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "riceburner006" wrote:
> > > ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> > > In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles" wrote:
> > > > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > > > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > > > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > > > Miles
> > > > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey

zayjspeed · Post by **zayjspeed** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:27 am

The "Auto Zone" parts store will let you buy one and when you are through with it take it back and they refund all your money. It is part of there free tool loan deal
:::::::::::::::::::Zay

--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, "Miles" wrote:
> I bought mine at Sears for under $30.00 but here's one that might be better quality avail. at Sears.com for about $40.00. You must use a *double flaring tool* or your lines will leak. Here's the link:
> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... aring+tool
> And if you but the one from that company that sells the flare nuts it will set you back $369.00 as I recall.
> ********************************************************
> > OK, here's the info:
> > Here's a great link contact I picked up from another vintage group:
> > http://www.cunifer. com/?page= home
> > http://store. fedhillusa. com/316475mmtubi ngandnuts. aspx
> > They have the M10 x 1.25 pitch flare nuts for our cars in stock under Part Number M7L-3. Also look into their copper-nickel alloy brake line tubing, claimed to be much easier to work with than conventional steel tubing. Rusted brake lines are dangerous; they can fail at any time, but especially in an emergency when you have to really jump on the brakes.
> > Norm
> > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles" wrote:
> > > Somebody in Japan is making them in stainless, I will have to look in my other Yahoo group, Just-S. They are coarse thread compared to the normal Civic ones. Ours are 10 x 1.25. Most other imports are 10 x 1.0.
> > > Miles
> > > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "riceburner006" wrote:
> > > > ---Miles hello! Who sells these repro line nuts? They are the fine threaded ones I think?
> > > > In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles" wrote:
> > > > > 6mm fuel hose, same size as VW, I used to sell it in 6' lengths.
> > > > > When you destroy the flare nut you will have to install another one. I bought by double flaring tool at Sears, it's easy to use too ! Then you will need another nut and since they are different than most other cars you will need a used one or one of the repro's from Japan. I can help you with a used one.
> > > > > Not sure what will happen if you introduce a torch to the master cyl, but if you do it on the car, don't forget the fuel tube is right there too. BOOM !
> > > > > Miles
> > > > > --- In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com, "kevin.gailey" wrote:
> > > > > > I cannot for the life of my get the brake lines out of the master cylinder or remove the bleeder nut from the calipers. I even used a flare nut wrench and it rounded the nut. Vice grips will not work either and soaked with WD-40 2 days in a row. Heat from a torch? Also what size fuel hose do we need for the 600
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > Thanks, Kevin Gailey