tires

Eric Geiger · Post by **Eric Geiger** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:57 pm

i was able to talk the guy with the 2 kuhmos down to 50$ a tire and pulled the trigger. now i have 1 spare too :0
Eric J. Geiger
PRG Nocturne
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On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:23 PM, One other aspect... Back in the early 70's I used to run Goodyear garden tractor tires on my N600. ( wide tires) They had a street type tread. I bought a few sets of these and they worked great. They are no longer > made and no they were not DOT approved, but I wasn't much DOT approved back then either. There is available DOT approved golf cart tires nowadays and of course non DOT tires. Someone is going to jump in here and say non DOT tires will kill you and everyone > on the hi-way but that is pure bullshit. Some non dot tires are racing tires rated for hi-speed. OH by the way, some will also say if you are in a wreck the LEOS will check your tires for the stamp, more bullshit.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Baer baerw.ahi@...
> To: 2cylinderhondas 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at
> MiniMania.com
> @ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock. Hopefully be here in 3 days. Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is better > than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister
> misterpoopoohead@...
> wrote:
> > Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> > Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online
> > you find out that they don't have them.
> > kev
> > From:
> > Mark P Hatten > mphatten@...
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> > I tried Les Schwab with no luck
> > http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > From:
> > fisherfam05@...
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> > Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> > Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless"
> > -----Original message-----
> > > From:
> > > Kevin Lister > > misterpoopoohead@...
> > > To:
> > > "
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > " > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> > > Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they may not actually have them.
> > > I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> > > Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
> > > I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> > > I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> > > kev
> > > From:
> > > David Baer > > baerw.ahi@...
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> > > "America's Tire" sells them. I just checked last week.
> > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger
> > > > > egeiger@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> > > > the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> > > > i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> > > > please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> > > > Thanks!!!
> > > --
> > > David F. Baer
> > > 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> > > Honolulu, HI 96815
> > > Cell:
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell:
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
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Kevin Lister · Post by **Kevin Lister** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:57 pm

I'd take the Falkens over dry-rot any day! ;o)
From:
David Baer To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:13 PM Subject:
Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at MiniMania.com @ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock. Hopefully be here in 3 days. Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is better than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister
Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online > you find out that they don't have them.
> kev
> From:
> Mark P Hatten mphatten@...
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> Subject:
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> I tried Les Schwab with no luck
> http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> From:
> fisherfam05@...
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless"
> -----Original message-----
> > From:
> > Kevin Lister > misterpoopoohead@...
> > To:
> > "
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > " > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> > Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they may not actually have them.
> > I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> > Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
> > I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> > I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> > kev
> > From:
> > David Baer > baerw.ahi@...
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> > "America's Tire" sells them. I just checked last week.
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger
> > > egeiger@...
> > wrote:
> > > does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> > > the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> > > i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> > > please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> > > Thanks!!!
> > --
> > David F. Baer
> > 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> > Honolulu, HI 96815
> > Cell:
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
--
David F. Baer
469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
Honolulu, HI 96815
Cell:
XXX-XXX-XXXX

Kevin Lister · Post by **Kevin Lister** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:03 pm

Doesn't it come down to heat? Since the 600's had an estimated top speed of 75MPH I'd think the heat on the tire would not be that great. So, non-DOT tires are likely to be safe since the 600's aren't going to be pushed to hard.
On the freeway I typically cruise between 60 and 70MPH. So, the heat on the tires is likely to be low.
What do you folks think?
kev
From:
"jbmkwaj@..." To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:23 PM Subject:
Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
One other aspect... Back in the early 70's I used to run Goodyear garden tractor tires on my N600. ( wide tires) They had a street type tread. I bought a few sets of these and they worked great. They are no longer made and no they were not DOT approved, but I wasn't much DOT approved back then either. There is available DOT approved golf cart tires nowadays and of course non DOT tires. Someone is going to jump in here and say non DOT tires will kill you and everyone on the hi-way but that is pure bullshit. Some non dot tires are racing tires rated for hi-speed. OH by the way, some will also say if you are in a wreck the LEOS will check your tires for the stamp, more bullshit.

John Mills · Post by **John Mills** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:22 pm

Actually heat has nothing to do wit it. DOT just means they were tested and approved along with the extra insurance required. Non DOT can have a much higher rating if they were race tires, or exactly the same rubber if not. When the first KUHMO tires first came out the big truck tires saidright on them not to exceed 50 MPH. WHO knows.....use um or don't.

Kevin Lister · Post by **Kevin Lister** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:42 pm

I believe h eat is very important.
Heat is not just imortant with regards to tires but pretty much anything with moving parts. I don't think DOT ratings matter much as long as the tire is not asked to do more than it was designed to do. That's all I was trying to say. ;o)
kev
From:
"jbmkwaj@..." To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:22 PM Subject:
Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
Actually heat has nothing to do wit it. DOT just means they were tested and approved along with the extra insurance required. Non DOT can have a much higher rating if they were race tires, or exactly the same rubber if not. When the first KUHMO tires first came out the big truck tires saidright on them not to exceed 50 MPH. WHO knows.....use um or don't.

Lyle · Post by **Lyle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:29 pm

My Kumho tires are older, but no dry rot or cracking yet. I will get some new ones someday. Driving my Coupe around at below 65mph I don't see a need for speed rated tires. I will probably buy the Falken tires like the ones listed on Ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-FALKEN-SN ... 79&vxp=mtr
When I get my Coupe to go faster than 78mph, I will start to worry about a high speed blowout!
:)
Lyle

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> I'd take the Falkens over dry-rot any day! ;o)
> From: David Baer
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at MiniMania.com @ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock. Hopefully be here in 3 days. Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is better than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister wrote:
> >Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> >Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online you find out that they don't have them.
> >kev
> >From: Mark P Hatten
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> >Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >I tried Les Schwab with no luck
http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >From: fisherfam05@...
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> >Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless™
> >-----Original message-----
> >From: Kevin Lister
> >>To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >>Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they may not actually have them.
> >>I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> >>Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
> >>I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> >>I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> >>kev
> >>From: David Baer
> >>To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>"America's Tire" sells them. I just checked last week.
> >>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger wrote:
> >>>does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> >>>the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> >>>i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> >>>please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> >>>Thanks!!!
> >>--
> >>David F. Baer
> >>469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> >>Honolulu, HI 96815
> >>Cell: XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell: XXX-XXX-XXXX

Lyle · Post by **Lyle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:35 pm

Tire heat is important. Our Honda 600's use 145/80R-10 tires.
I love math and racing, so think of this....
The formula is: section width X Aspect ratio X 2 divided by 25.4 + rim Diameter = tire Diameter.
So 145 X .8 = 116 x 2 = 232 divided by 25.4 = 9.13 + 10 = 19.13" tire diameter.
Now take 19.13" dia X 3.14159 = 60.1" tire circumference. About 5ft distance traveled per revolution. 5280ft in a mile divided by 5ft = 1056. So the Honda tires are rotating at 1056rpm's at 60mph! That is about twice as fast as my F150 tires are rotating. But the Honda tire only carries about 400 pounds per tire.
So weight, rpm, G-load....
I still think we are way below what these tires can handle.
I think any DOT approved tire will be fine.
My 2 cents
Lyle

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> I believe heat is very important.
> Heat is not just imortant with regards to tires but pretty much anything with moving parts. I don't think DOT ratings matter much as long as the tire is not asked to do more than it was designed to do. That's all I was trying to say. ;o)
> kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> Actually heat has nothing to do wit it. DOT just means they were tested and approved along with the extra insurance required. Non DOT can have a much higher rating if they were race tires, or exactly the same rubber if not. When the first KUHMO tires first came out the big truck tires saidright on them not to exceed 50 MPH. WHO knows.....use um or don't.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Lister
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 2:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> Doesn't it come down to heat? Since the 600's had an estimated top speed of 75MPH I'd think the heat on the tire would not be that great. So, non-DOT tires are likely to be safe since the 600's aren't going to be pushed to hard.
> On the freeway I typically cruise between 60 and 70MPH. So, the heat on the tires is likely to be low.
> What do you folks think?
> kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> One other aspect... Back in the early 70's I used to run Goodyear garden tractor tires on my N600. ( wide tires) They had a street type tread. I bought a few sets of these and they worked great. They are no longer made and no they were not DOT approved, but I wasn't much DOT approved back then either. There is available DOT approved golf cart tires nowadays and of course non DOT tires. Someone is going to jump in here and say non DOT tires will kill you and everyone on the hi-way but that is pure bullshit. Some non dot tires are racing tires rated for hi-speed. OH by the way, some will also say if you are in a wreck the LEOS will check your tires for the stamp, more bullshit.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Baer
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at MiniMania.com @ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock. Hopefully be here in 3 days. Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is better than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister wrote:
> >Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> >Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online you find out that they don't have them.
> >kev
> >From: Mark P Hatten
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> >Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >I tried Les Schwab with no luck
http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >From: fisherfam05@...
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> >Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless™
> >-----Original message-----
> >From: Kevin Lister
> >>To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >>Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they may not actually have them.
> >>I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> >>Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
> >>I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> >>I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> >>kev
> >>From: David Baer
> >>To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>"America's Tire" sells them. I just checked last week.
> >>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger wrote:
> >>>does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> >>>the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> >>>i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> >>>please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> >>>Thanks!!!
> >>--
> >>David F. Baer
> >>469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> >>Honolulu, HI 96815
> >>Cell: XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell: XXX-XXX-XXXX

Alan Stanyon · Post by **Alan Stanyon** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:16 am

In the UK here we can get 165/70 10 and 145/80 10 tyres "off the shelf" its the spare parts we find hard to get!
Alan
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com From: lyletrudell@...
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:35:42 +0000 Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Kumho tires
Tire heat is important. Our Honda 600's use 145/80R-10 tires.
I love math and racing, so think of this....
The formula is: section width X Aspect ratio X 2 divided by 25.4 + rim Diameter = tire Diameter.
So 145 X .8 = 116 x 2 = 232 divided by 25.4 = 9.13 + 10 = 19.13" tire diameter.
Now take 19.13" dia X 3.14159 = 60.1" tire circumference. About 5ft distance traveled per revolution. 5280ft in a mile divided by 5ft = 1056. So the Honda tires are rotating at 1056rpm's at 60mph! That is about twice as fast as my F150 tires are rotating. But the Honda tire only carries about 400 pounds per tire.
So weight, rpm, G-load....
I still think we are way below what these tires can handle.
I think any DOT approved tire will be fine.
My 2 cents Lyle

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> I believe heat is very important.
> �
> Heat is not just imortant with regards to tires but pretty much anything with moving parts. I don't think DOT ratings matter much as long as the tire is not asked to do more than it was designed to do. That's all I was trying to say. ;o) > � > kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> Actually heat has nothing to do wit it. DOT just means they were tested and approved along with the extra insurance required. Non DOT can have a much higher rating if they were race tires, or exactly the same rubber if not. When the first KUHMO tires first came out the big truck tires saidright on them not to exceed 50 MPH. WHO knows.....use um or don't.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Lister
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 2:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> Doesn't it come down to heat? Since the 600's had an estimated top speed of 75MPH I'd think the heat on the tire would not be that great. So, non-DOT tires are likely to be safe since the 600's aren't going to be pushed to hard.
> �
> On the freeway I typically cruise between 60 and 70MPH. So, the heat on the tires is likely to be low.
> What do you folks think?
> kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> One other aspect... Back in the early 70's I used to run Goodyear garden tractor tires on my N600. ( wide tires) They had a street type tread. I bought a few sets of these and they worked great. They are no longer made and no they were not DOT approved, but I wasn't much DOT approved back then either. There is available DOT approved golf cart tires nowadays and of course non DOT tires. Someone is going to jump in here and say non DOT tires will kill you and everyone on the hi-way but that is pure bullshit. Some non dot tires are racing tires rated for hi-speed. OH by the way, some will also say if you are in a wreck the LEOS will check your tires for the stamp, more bullshit.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Baer
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at MiniMania.com @ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock.� Hopefully be here in 3 days.� Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is� better than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister wrote:
> �
> >Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> >�
> >Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online you find out that they don't have them.
> >�
> >kev
> >From: Mark P Hatten
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> >Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >�
> >I tried Les Schwab with no luck
> >�
http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> >�
> >�
> >�
> >�
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >From: fisherfam05@...
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >�
> >Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> >Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless��
> >-----Original message-----
> >From: Kevin Lister
> >>To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >>Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>�
> >>Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they� may not� actually have them.
> >>�
> >>I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> >>�
> >>Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
> >>�
> >>I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> >>�
> >>I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> >>�
> >>kev
> >>From: David Baer
> >>To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>�
> >>"America's Tire" sells them.� I just checked last week.
> >>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger wrote:
> >>�
> >>>does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> >>>the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> >>>i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> >>>please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> >>>Thanks!!!
> >>--
> >>David F. Baer
> >>469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> >>Honolulu, HI 96815
> >>Cell:� XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell:� XXX-XXX-XXXX

Cspan · Post by **Cspan** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:26 am

I just bought a kumho tire new w tags for 50 bux recently. I've already got a good set but knew I couldn't pass it up.:D From: Alan Stanyon
Sent: 6/21/2012 4:16 AM
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Kumho tires
In the UK here we can get 165/70 10 and 145/80 10 tyres "off the shelf" its the spare parts we find hard to get!
Alan
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com From: lyletrudell@...
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:35:42 +0000 Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Kumho tires
Tire heat is important. Our Honda 600's use 145/80R-10 tires.
I love math and racing, so think of this....
The formula is: section width X Aspect ratio X 2 divided by 25.4 + rim Diameter = tire Diameter.
So 145 X .8 = 116 x 2 = 232 divided by 25.4 = 9.13 + 10 = 19.13" tire diameter.
Now take 19.13" dia X 3.14159 = 60.1" tire circumference. About 5ft distance traveled per revolution. 5280ft in a mile divided by 5ft = 1056. So the Honda tires are rotating at 1056rpm's at 60mph! That is about twice as fast as my F150 tires are rotating. But the Honda tire only carries about 400 pounds per tire.
So weight, rpm, G-load....
I still think we are way below what these tires can handle.
I think any DOT approved tire will be fine.
My 2 cents Lyle

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> I believe heat is very important.
> �
> Heat is not just imortant with regards to tires but pretty much anything with moving parts. I don't think DOT ratings matter much as long as the tire is not asked to do more than it was designed to do. That's all I was trying to say. ;o) > � > kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> Actually heat has nothing to do wit it. DOT just means they were tested and approved along with the extra insurance required. Non DOT can have a much higher rating if they were race tires, or exactly the same rubber if not. When the first KUHMO tires first came out the big truck tires saidright on them not to exceed 50 MPH. WHO knows.....use um or don't.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Lister
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 2:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> Doesn't it come down to heat? Since the 600's had an estimated top speed of 75MPH I'd think the heat on the tire would not be that great. So, non-DOT tires are likely to be safe since the 600's aren't going to be pushed to hard.
> �
> On the freeway I typically cruise between 60 and 70MPH. So, the heat on the tires is likely to be low.
> What do you folks think?
> kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> One other aspect... Back in the early 70's I used to run Goodyear garden tractor tires on my N600. ( wide tires) They had a street type tread. I bought a few sets of these and they worked great. They are no longer made and no they were not DOT approved, but I wasn't much DOT approved back then either. There is available DOT approved golf cart tires nowadays and of course non DOT tires. Someone is going to jump in here and say non DOT tires will kill you and everyone on the hi-way but that is pure bullshit. Some non dot tires are racing tires rated for hi-speed. OH by the way, some will also say if you are in a wreck the LEOS will check your tires for the stamp, more bullshit.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Baer
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at MiniMania.com @ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock.� Hopefully be here in 3 days.� Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is� better than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister wrote:
> �
> >Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> >�
> >Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online you find out that they don't have them.
> >�
> >kev
> >From: Mark P Hatten
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> >Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >�
> >I tried Les Schwab with no luck
> >�
http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> >�
> >�
> >�
> >�
> >To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >From: fisherfam05@...
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >�
> >Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> >Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless��
> >-----Original message-----
> >From: Kevin Lister
> >>To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >>Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>�
> >>Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they� may not� actually have them.
> >>�
> >>I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> >>�
> >>Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
> >>�
> >>I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> >>�
> >>I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> >>�
> >>kev
> >>From: David Baer
> >>To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>�
> >>"America's Tire" sells them.� I just checked last week.
> >>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger wrote:
> >>�
> >>>does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> >>>the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> >>>i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> >>>please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> >>>Thanks!!!
> >>--
> >>David F. Baer
> >>469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> >>Honolulu, HI 96815
> >>Cell:� XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell:� XXX-XXX-XXXX

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Kevin Lister · Post by **Kevin Lister** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:53 am

Yeah, I love it when people do the math! Our cars are so light and with the low speeds they travel I would no concerns at all about using non-DOT tires from a technical point of view.
However, it is a good point that if you have a blow-out and you cause an accident and some officious individual points out you were running on non-DOT tires it could result in litigation that you just can't win. It's probably not worth it.
From:
Lyle To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:35 PM Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] Re: Kumho tires
Tire heat is important. Our Honda 600's use 145/80R-10 tires.
I love math and racing, so think of this....
The formula is: section width X Aspect ratio X 2 divided by 25.4 + rim Diameter = tire Diameter.
So 145 X .8 = 116 x 2 = 232 divided by 25.4 = 9.13 + 10 = 19.13" tire diameter.
Now take 19.13" dia X 3.14159 = 60.1" tire circumference. About 5ft distance traveled per revolution. 5280ft in a mile divided by 5ft = 1056. So the Honda tires are rotating at 1056rpm's at 60mph! That is about twice as fast as my F150 tires are rotating. But the Honda tire only carries about 400 pounds per tire.
So weight, rpm, G-load....
I still think we are way below what these tires can handle.
I think any DOT approved tire will be fine.
My 2 cents Lyle --- In mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com , Kevin Lister wrote:

> I believe heat is very important.
> �
> Heat is not just imortant with regards to tires but pretty much anything with moving parts. I don't think DOT ratings matter much as long as the tire is not asked to do more than it was designed to do. That's all I was trying to say. ;o) > � > kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> Actually heat has nothing to do wit it. DOT just means they were tested and approved along with the extra insurance required. Non DOT can

have a much higher rating if they were race tires, or exactly the same rubber if not. When the first KUHMO tires first came out the big truck tires saidright on them not to exceed 50 MPH. WHO knows.....use um or don't.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Lister
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 2:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> Doesn't it come down to heat? Since the 600's had an estimated top speed of 75MPH I'd think the heat on the tire would not be that great. So, non-DOT tires are likely to be safe since the 600's aren't going to be pushed to hard.
> �
> On the freeway I typically

cruise between 60 and 70MPH. So, the heat on the tires is likely to be low.

> What do you folks think?
> kev
> From: "jbmkwaj@..."
> To:
mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> One other aspect... Back in the early 70's I used to run Goodyear garden tractor tires on my N600. ( wide tires) They had a street type tread. I bought a few sets of these and they worked great. They are no longer made and no they were not DOT approved, but I wasn't much DOT approved back then either. There is available DOT approved golf cart tires nowadays and of course non DOT tires. Someone is

going to jump in here and say non DOT tires will kill you and everyone on the hi-way but that is pure bullshit. Some non dot tires are racing tires rated for hi-speed. OH by the way, some will also say if you are in a wreck the LEOS will check your tires for the stamp, more bullshit.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Baer
> To: 2cylinderhondas Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> �
> I did find FALKEN 145/80x10 Tires at
MiniMania.com
@ $89 each, have 4 on order, called prior to placing order and they had 8 in stock.� Hopefully be here in 3

days.� Not Kumho but something that at least rolls is� better than the dry-rot it's sitting on right now.

> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Lister wrote:
> �
> >Yeah. I'm not surprised.
> >�
> >Like I said. Many places advertise they have the tires but when you actually talk to them on the phone or you try to order them online you find out that they don't have them.
> >�
> >kev
> >From: Mark P Hatten
> >To:
mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:08 PM
> >Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >�
>I tried Les Schwab with no luck
> >�
http://www.mphspecialties.com/
> >�
> >�
> >�
> >�
> >To:
mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com
> >From: fisherfam05@...
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:43:46 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >�
> >Les Schwab tire can get them...not sure of the exact brand...though.
> >Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless��
> >-----Original message-----
> >From: Kevin Lister
> >>To:

" mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com " >>Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 19:12:32 GMT+00:00
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>�
> >>Actually, there are several places that list them for sale but they� may not� actually have them.
> >>�
> >>I've been buying Kumho tires for my Sedan for years and last time I tried to get the tires online they were not available.
> >>�
> >>Last time I got tires I tried America's, TireRack, etc. Nobody had them.
>>�
> >>I ended up getting a set from a guy on eBay for a good price.
> >>�
> >>I keep hoping that Kumho will make a run of them so that we have tires to put on our cars.
> >>�
> >>kev
> >>From: David Baer
> >>To:
mailto:2cylinderhondas%40yahoogroups.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Kumho tires
> >>�
> >>"America's Tire" sells them.� I just checked last week.
> >>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM, eric.geiger wrote:
>>�
> >>>does anyone have a new or new-ish Kuhmo tire size 145/80 R10??
> >>>the full name is Kuhmo Power Star
> >>>i have 3 like new ones and 1 that is blown out from damage.
> >>>please let me know if you have one you want to sell or know where to buy one.
> >>>Thanks!!!
> >>--
> >>David F. Baer
> >>469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> >>Honolulu, HI 96815
> >>Cell:� XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell:� (808)
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