1971 z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????

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dealadayray
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Re: z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????

Post by dealadayray »

Hi Harry;
    I forgot to ask, is Wagner Umhauer in Portugal, have a e-mail address?
Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> HARRY
> MOLENAAR
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:17
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> bill, don' t know any early shift quadrants here
> in europe, but have heart of an later one in england.
> have you tried peter rose in england ore wagner
> umhauer from the classic motors shop in portugal for those parts.
> i know peter rose found syngromesh for an
> hondamatic for a
> hondamatic driver in belgium
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > william colford
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:27
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > Thanks Harry;
> >     Your Hondamatic is really a sharp
> > car.  I have one of the later engines, but the one for the chassis > > AAXXX-XXX-XXXX Engine N600E-5000035 has the double cable shifter > > system.  The shift quadrant is broken, but it is for a Left had car > > like yours.  Only the engine numbers after 5000700 had a single cable > > shifter system.   Are there any of the early shift quadrants in > > your area?
> > See attached.  part #16 in the picture, part number
> > 51201-580-684 I believe is the correct part number.
> > Bill
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > HARRY
> > > MOLENAAR
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday, April 28, 2003 11:19
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > bill hearby the engine numbers and the foto
> > > of the hondamatic
> > > N600E-5000987 whit chassisnumber;
> > > AXXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > spare engine; N600E-5001025
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > william colford
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Friday, April 18, 2003 4:08
> > > > AM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > Thanks Harry;
> > > >     Your Coupe is on the site, but I
> > > > don't remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would > > > > like to put it up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on your > > > > cars?
> > > > Bill
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > HARRY
> > > > > MOLENAAR
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > 2:15 PM
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > hi you all
> > > > > just some explanation about the
> > > > > hondamatic.
> > > > > i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a
> > > > > year ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> > > > > i believe there is a foto in the
> > > > > fotoalbum
> > > > > there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> > > > > holland/nederland and
> > > > > whe have 2 of them now the other one has
> > > > > been sold to claus mann.
> > > > > i know somebody who has the engine of the
> > > > > 4 th one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> > > > > the are verry rare here in europe also,
> > > > > the most of them are sold in france where you still can find some > > > > > good examples.
> > > > > the big problem is when you need parts
> > > > > for them because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from > > > > > honda.
> > > > > but the are verry strong and mostly brake
> > > > > down on the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> > > > > technicly it is totaly different from the
> > > > > civic hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 > > > > > gears and he civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 > > > > > steps.
> > > > > ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold
> > > > > whit hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> > > > > you could convert a Z coup to a
> > > > > hondamatic but you would need to mount the total front power > > > > > train to the car because the subframe and all are different, and you > > > > > need to fit the shift cabels,etc also.
> > > > > when people need parts for N
> > > > > hondamatic
> > > > > the can contact me, i
> > > > > have remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> > > > > greatings from
> > > > > holland/nederland
> > > > > h.molenaar
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > Jochen
> > > > > > Pokies
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > > 9:36 PM
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > Hi Bill,
> > > > > > Netherlands and Holland are the same
> > > > > > countries. Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking > > > > > > from Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
> > > > > > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too.
> > > > > > Klaus Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > > > > > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > > > > > europe?
> > > > > > Jochen from Germany
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > william colford
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > ;
> > > > > > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > Thursday, April 17,
> > > > > > > 2003 8:35 AM
> > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > Hi Marty;
> > > > > > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two
> > > > > > > versions, the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough > > > > > > > double wire shifting set up which would make it costly to > > > > > > > adapt.  Other issues would be the brake peddle > > > > > > > placement.  The one I have originally had engine number > > > > > > > 500035.  The engine in it when I found it had number > > > > > > > 5000491.   The engine mounts are different, > > > > > > > shifting is different and there is a cable that came from the Carb > > > > > > > town to the transmission which governed the speed through > > > > > > > shifts.  Exhaust is different.   Other than that it > > > > > > > would be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 in New > > > > > > > Zealand for sale, and I have listed two in England, two in > > > > > > > the Netherlands, one in Holland.  The real issue is as Miles > > > > > > > has already said,  they have to start moving long before the > > > > > > > light turns green or they would never make it across the > > > > > > > road.  Engine parts are another problem as well as some of > > > > > > > the interior parts.  Some of the Emblems have still > > > > > > > not been located.
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > martykart@...
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 16,
> > > > > > > > 2003 8:31 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > > yes i have a 66
> > > > > > > > convertible. in the us and there are a few others on here too i > > > > > > > > think. idont think youll find an auto however if they made one > > > > > > > > for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > > > > > > sure.
> > > > > > > > marty
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PatrickJHamilton
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Re: z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????

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the e-mail address of wagner-umhauer
classicmotos@...
Jochen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> william
> colford
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:47
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> Hi Harry;
>     I forgot to ask, is Wagner Umhauer in
> Portugal, have a e-mail address?
> Bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > HARRY
> > MOLENAAR
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:17
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > bill, don' t know any early shift quadrants
> > here in europe, but have heart of an later one in england.
> > have you tried peter rose in england ore wagner
> > umhauer from the classic motors shop in portugal for those > > parts.
> > i know peter rose found syngromesh for an
> > hondamatic for a
> > hondamatic driver in belgium
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > william colford
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:27
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > Thanks Harry;
> > >     Your Hondamatic is really a sharp
> > > car.  I have one of the later engines, but the one for the chassis > > > AAXXX-XXX-XXXX Engine N600E-5000035 has the double cable shifter > > > system.  The shift quadrant is broken, but it is for a Left had car > > > like yours.  Only the engine numbers after 5000700 had a single cable > > > shifter system.   Are there any of the early shift quadrants in > > > your area?
> > > See attached.  part #16 in the picture, part number
> > > 51201-580-684 I believe is the correct part number.
> > > Bill
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > HARRY
> > > > MOLENAAR
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Monday, April 28, 2003 11:19
> > > > AM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > bill hearby the engine numbers and the foto
> > > > of the hondamatic
> > > > N600E-5000987 whit chassisnumber;
> > > > AXXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > spare engine; N600E-5001025
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > william colford
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Friday, April 18, 2003 4:08
> > > > > AM
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > Thanks Harry;
> > > > >     Your Coupe is on the site, but I
> > > > > don't remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would > > > > > like to put it up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on > > > > > your cars?
> > > > > Bill
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > HARRY
> > > > > > MOLENAAR
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > > 2:15 PM
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > hi you all
> > > > > > just some explanation about the
> > > > > > hondamatic.
> > > > > > i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine
> > > > > > a year ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> > > > > > i believe there is a foto in the
> > > > > > fotoalbum
> > > > > > there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> > > > > > holland/nederland and
> > > > > > whe have 2 of them now the other one
> > > > > > has been sold to claus mann.
> > > > > > i know somebody who has the engine of
> > > > > > the 4 th one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> > > > > > the are verry rare here in europe also,
> > > > > > the most of them are sold in france where you still can find > > > > > > some good examples.
> > > > > > the big problem is when you need parts
> > > > > > for them because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from > > > > > > honda.
> > > > > > but the are verry strong and mostly
> > > > > > brake down on the enigine side and not on the automatic > > > > > > side.
> > > > > > technicly it is totaly different from
> > > > > > the civic hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by > > > > > > hydrolics 4 gears and he civic hondamatic is just has a > > > > > > hydrolic converter whit 3 steps.
> > > > > > ther are in japan officialy Z coupe
> > > > > > sold whit hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> > > > > > you could convert a Z coup to a
> > > > > > hondamatic but you would need to mount the total front power > > > > > > train to the car because the subframe and all are different, and you > > > > > > need to fit the shift cabels,etc also.
> > > > > > when people need parts for N
> > > > > > hondamatic
> > > > > > the can contact me, i
> > > > > > have remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> > > > > > greatings from
> > > > > > holland/nederland
> > > > > > h.molenaar
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > Jochen Pokies
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > Thursday, April 17,
> > > > > > > 2003 9:36 PM
> > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > Hi Bill,
> > > > > > > Netherlands and Holland are the same
> > > > > > > countries. Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are > > > > > > > spaeking from Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
> > > > > > > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany,
> > > > > > > too. Klaus Mann has the car, but he has no internet > > > > > > > account.
> > > > > > > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > > > > > > europe?
> > > > > > > Jochen from Germany
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > william colford
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > ;
> > > > > > > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > > Thursday, April 17,
> > > > > > > > 2003 8:35 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > > Hi Marty;
> > > > > > > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two
> > > > > > > > versions, the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really > > > > > > > > tough double wire shifting set up which would make it costly to > > > > > > > > adapt.  Other issues would be the brake peddle > > > > > > > > placement.  The one I have originally had engine > > > > > > > > number 500035.  The engine in it when I found it > > > > > > > > had number 5000491.   The engine mounts are > > > > > > > > different, shifting is different and there is a cable that came > > > > > > > > from the Carb town to the transmission which governed the speed > > > > > > > > through shifts.  Exhaust is different.   Other > > > > > > > > than that it would be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 > > > > > > > > in New Zealand for sale, and I have listed two in > > > > > > > > England, two in the Netherlands, one in Holland.  The real > > > > > > > > issue is as Miles has already said,  they have to start > > > > > > > > moving long before the light turns green or they would never > > > > > > > > make it across the road.  Engine parts are another problem > > > > > > > > as well as some of the interior parts.  Some of > > > > > > > > the Emblems have still not been located.
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > martykart@...
> > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, April
> > > > > > > > > 16, 2003 8:31 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > > > yes i have a 66
> > > > > > > > > convertible. in the us and there are a few others on here too > > > > > > > > > i think. idont think youll find an auto however if they made > > > > > > > > > one for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > > > > > > > sure.
> > > > > > > > > marty
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