Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup

Archived posts from the ANZ Honda 600 Owners Yahoo Group
mterrens
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:36 am

Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup

Post by mterrens »

OK, here is an update on the "tuneup" (AKA trying to get the coupe to start)
Yesterday, I replaced the points and condensor.  set the gap on the points.  I did not (yet) replace the blue wire, though it was a bit chewed up (meter showed it to not be broken).  The car started right up and ran well.  I drove it to a local weekly show, then (almost) home.  The car died suddenly while coasting to a light.  After messing with the points some more I gave up and called AAA.
Today I rebuilt the blue cable with 16 gauge wire and new ends.  I installed it - and the OLD condensor, just to see if it was still good.  I redid the points gap.  The car started up immediately.  I let it idle for a while.  no problem.  I noted a wisp of smoke coming up from the engine bay, took a look, and found that the three wires that run from the engine to the rectifier were melting together at the connectors.
Here is an old picture of those wires.
  Turned the car off, stripped the black wrap from the wires and found them fused together for a few inches going back towards the rectifier.  I pulled the battery and tray and flipped it over to see the other ends of the wires (they will be replaced altogether).  The rectifier is buried in YEARS of road crud - it's amazing the thing worked at all.  I will be cleaning all of that up.
Why did the wires melt?  Might the rectifier have an issue?  Or maybe the connectors just corroded?  Any maintainence to do on the rectifier other than clean it?  What gauge wire should I use to replace the three bad ones?  I plan to use weatherproof bullet connectors at the point where they meet the wires from the motor, rather than the spade-type that was originally there.
Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Steven
> Michelsen
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:36
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck
> in the middle of a tuneup
> Mike,
> I am pretty sure I had both wires in the center
> when I tried to start the car.
> No chance to reinstall the points or do any
> testing until tomorrow night at the earliest; I will pass along my > findings.
> Thanks,
> Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Mike and Tami
> > Speer
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:07
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > How did you have
> > them Steve?
> > I asked this over
> > at the Honda 600 Owners board but didn�t get an answer, how much spark > > should I see with these?
> > Mine is nice and
> > blue but the spark itself is very thin and hard to see, I had to turn off my > > garage lights to see it well as I could barely see it with the lights > > on.
> > I am used to
> > checking cars with a larger coil and those have a fatter > > spark.
> > Mike
> > From:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Steven
> > Michelsen
> > Sent:
> > Saturday,
> > August 09, 2008 7:08 AM
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > Mark,
> > I think you're right about the
> > condensor wire!  I redid the wiring and will reinstall tonight.
> > Here is how it
> > is wired now
> > .  Please let me know if this is
> > right.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark"
> > > doc_coffin@yahoo. com
> > To: > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008
> > 11:30 PM
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > , "Mark
> > Kuran" wrote:
> > >> Check if you have a
> > spark coming out of the wires to the spark plugs
> > >> while
> > cranking.
> > >> Mark
> > > If no spark, check that you
> > have the condenser wire in between the
> > > proper washers and
> > insulators. This very small eror has messed me up
> > > several
> > times!
> > > Mark Coffin
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > Yahoo!
> > Groups Links
> > > To
JN
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:37 am

anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by JN »

Coker has bias in ww but very pricey @ $106 plus $14 for the tube.
--- On
Wed, 9/3/08, Steven Michelsen

wrote:
> From: Steven Michelsen
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup > To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com, 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:20 PM
> OK, here is an update on the "tuneup" (AKA trying
> to get the coupe to start)
> Yesterday, I replaced the points and
> condensor.  set the gap on the points.  I did not (yet) replace the > blue wire, though it was a bit chewed up (meter showed it to not be > broken).  The car started right up and ran well.  I drove it to a > local weekly show, then (almost) home.  The car died suddenly while > coasting to a light.  After messing with the points some more I gave up and > called AAA.
> Today I rebuilt the blue cable with 16 gauge wire
> and new ends.  I installed it - and the OLD condensor, just to see if > it was still good.  I redid the points gap.  The car started up > immediately.  I let it idle for a while.  no problem.  I noted a > wisp of smoke coming up from the engine bay, took a look, and found that the > three wires that run from the engine to the rectifier were melting together at > the connectors.
> Here
> is an old picture of those wires.
>   Turned the car off, stripped
> the black wrap from the wires and found them fused together for a few > inches going back towards the rectifier.  I pulled the battery and tray and > flipped it over to see the other ends of the wires (they will be replaced > altogether).  The rectifier is buried in YEARS of road crud - it's amazing > the thing worked at all.  I will be cleaning all of that up.
> Why did the wires melt?  Might the rectifier
> have an issue?  Or maybe the connectors just corroded?  Any > maintainence to do on the rectifier other than clean it?  What gauge wire > should I use to replace the three bad ones?  I plan to use weatherproof > bullet connectors at the point where they meet the wires from the motor, rather > than the spade-type that was originally there.
> Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Steven
> > Michelsen
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.. com
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:36
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck
> > in the middle of a tuneup
> > Mike,
> > I am pretty sure I had both wires in the center
> > when I tried to start the car.
> > No chance to reinstall the points or do any
> > testing until tomorrow night at the earliest; I will pass along my > > findings.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Mike and Tami
> > > Speer
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.. com
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:07
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > > stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > How did you have
> > > them Steve?
> > > I asked this over
> > > at the Honda 600 Owners board but didnt get an answer, how much spark > > > should I see with these?
> > > Mine is nice and
> > > blue but the spark itself is very thin and hard to see, I had to turn off my > > > garage lights to see it well as I could barely see it with the lights > > > on.
> > > I am used to
> > > checking cars with a larger coil and those have a fatter > > > spark.
> > > Mike
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups ..com]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Steven
> > > Michelsen
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday,
> > > August 09, 2008 7:08 AM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > > stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > Mark,
> > > I think you're right about the
> > > condensor wire!  I redid the wiring and will reinstall tonight.
> > > Here is how it
> > > is wired now
> > > .  Please let me know if this is
> > > right.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark"
> > > > > doc_coffin@yahoo. com
> > > To: > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008
> > > 11:30 PM
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > > stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > > --- In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > , "Mark
> > > Kuran" wrote:
> > > >> Check if you have a
> > > spark coming out of the wires to the spark plugs
> > > >> while
> > > cranking.
> > > >> Mark
> > > > If no spark, check that you
> > > have the condenser wire in between the
> > > > proper washers and
> > > insulators. This very small eror has messed me up
> > > > several
> > > times!
> > > > Mark Coffin
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > > Yahoo!
> > > Groups Links
> > > > To
Mike and Tami Speer
Posts: 27
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:07 am

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by Mike and Tami Speer »

I bought mine at www.tirerack.com
Mike
JN
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:37 am

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by JN »

are the tires you bought black wall or white wall?  I'll check the web sight.  I have heard of that place.
--- On
Wed, 9/3/08, Mike and Tami Speer

wrote:
> From: Mike and Tami Speer
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:07 PM
> I bought mine at
> www.tirerack. com
> Mike
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ] > On Behalf Of > JN
> Sent:
> Wednesday, September 03,
> 2008 4:57 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners]
> anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> Coker has bias in ww but very pricey @ $106 plus $14
> for the tube.
> --- On
> Wed, 9/3/08, Steven Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> From: Steven Michelsen
>
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of > a tuneup
> To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ,
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:20 PM
> OK, here is an update on the "tuneup" (AKA
> trying to get the coupe to start)
> Yesterday, I replaced the points and condensor.  set
> the gap on the points.  I did not (yet) replace the blue wire, though it > was a bit chewed up (meter showed it to not be broken).  The car started > right up and ran well.  I drove it to a local weekly show, then (almost) > home.  The car died suddenly while coasting to a light.  After > messing with the points some more I gave up and called AAA.
> Today I rebuilt the blue cable with 16 gauge wire and new
> ends.  I installed it - and the OLD condensor, just to see if it > was still good.  I redid the points gap.  The car started up > immediately.  I let it idle for a while.  no problem.  I noted > a wisp of smoke coming up from the engine bay, took a look, and found that > the three wires that run from the engine to the rectifier were melting > together at the connectors.
> Here is an
> old picture of those wires.
>   Turned the car off, stripped
> the black wrap from the wires and found them fused together for a few > inches going back towards the rectifier.  I pulled the battery and tray > and flipped it over to see the other ends of the wires (they will be replaced > altogether).  The rectifier is buried in YEARS of road crud - it's > amazing the thing worked at all.  I will be cleaning all of that up.
> Why did the wires melt?  Might the rectifier have an
> issue?  Or maybe the connectors just corroded?  Any maintainence to > do on the rectifier other than clean it?  What gauge wire should I use > to replace the three bad ones?  I plan to use weatherproof bullet > connectors at the point where they meet the wires from the motor, rather than > the spade-type that was originally there.
> Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Steven Michelsen
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> > com
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, August
> > 10, 2008 12:36 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > Mike,
> > I am pretty sure I had both wires in the center when I
> > tried to start the car.
> > No chance to reinstall the points or do any testing until > > tomorrow night at the earliest; I will pass along my findings.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Mike
> > > and Tami Speer
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> > > com
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday, August
> > > 09, 2008 11:07 AM
> > > Subject:
> > > RE:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > How did you have them Steve?
> > > I asked this over at the Honda 600 Owners board but didn?t get an > > > answer, how much spark should I see with these?
> > > Mine is nice and blue but the spark itself is very thin and hard > > > to see, I had to turn off my garage lights to see it well as I could barely > > > see it with the lights on.
> > > I am used to checking cars with a larger coil and those have a > > > fatter spark.
> > > Mike
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.
> > > com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups ..com]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Steven Michelsen
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday, August 09, 2008
> > > 7:08 AM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > Mark,
> > > I think
> > > you're right about the condensor wire!  I redid the wiring and will > > > reinstall tonight.
> > > Here is how it is wired now
> > > .  Please let me
> > > know if this is right.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > > -----
> > > Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > "Mark" > > doc_coffin@yahoo. com
> > > To: > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent:
> > > Friday, August 08, 2008 11:30 PM
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > > ---
> > > In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > ,
> > > "Mark Kuran" wrote:
> > > >> Check if you have a spark coming out of the wires to the spark plugs
> > > >> while cranking.
> > > >> Mark
> > > > If no spark, check that you have the condenser wire in between the
> > > > proper washers and insulators. This very small eror has messed me up
> > > > several times!
> > > > Mark Coffin
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
JN
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:37 am

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by JN »

Coker has 145/80 10" white walls but they are bias and $106 plus $14 for the tube: ouch:pricey.  Tire Rack  has black wall for $42.  Heritage in Costa Mesa has black wall for $40. Anyone know about a radial white wall or a white wall that's cheaper?
--- On
Wed, 9/3/08, Mike and Tami Speer

wrote:
> From: Mike and Tami Speer
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:07 PM
> I bought mine at
> www.tirerack. com
> Mike
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ] > On Behalf Of > JN
> Sent:
> Wednesday, September 03,
> 2008 4:57 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners]
> anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> Coker has bias in ww but very pricey @ $106 plus $14
> for the tube.
> --- On
> Wed, 9/3/08, Steven Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> From: Steven Michelsen
>
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of > a tuneup
> To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ,
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:20 PM
> OK, here is an update on the "tuneup" (AKA
> trying to get the coupe to start)
> Yesterday, I replaced the points and condensor.  set
> the gap on the points.  I did not (yet) replace the blue wire, though it > was a bit chewed up (meter showed it to not be broken).  The car started > right up and ran well.  I drove it to a local weekly show, then (almost) > home.  The car died suddenly while coasting to a light.  After > messing with the points some more I gave up and called AAA.
> Today I rebuilt the blue cable with 16 gauge wire and new
> ends.  I installed it - and the OLD condensor, just to see if it > was still good.  I redid the points gap.  The car started up > immediately.  I let it idle for a while.  no problem.  I noted > a wisp of smoke coming up from the engine bay, took a look, and found that > the three wires that run from the engine to the rectifier were melting > together at the connectors.
> Here is an
> old picture of those wires.
>   Turned the car off, stripped
> the black wrap from the wires and found them fused together for a few > inches going back towards the rectifier.  I pulled the battery and tray > and flipped it over to see the other ends of the wires (they will be replaced > altogether).  The rectifier is buried in YEARS of road crud - it's > amazing the thing worked at all.  I will be cleaning all of that up.
> Why did the wires melt?  Might the rectifier have an
> issue?  Or maybe the connectors just corroded?  Any maintainence to > do on the rectifier other than clean it?  What gauge wire should I use > to replace the three bad ones?  I plan to use weatherproof bullet > connectors at the point where they meet the wires from the motor, rather than > the spade-type that was originally there.
> Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Steven Michelsen
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> > com
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, August
> > 10, 2008 12:36 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > Mike,
> > I am pretty sure I had both wires in the center when I
> > tried to start the car.
> > No chance to reinstall the points or do any testing until > > tomorrow night at the earliest; I will pass along my findings.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Mike
> > > and Tami Speer
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> > > com
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday, August
> > > 09, 2008 11:07 AM
> > > Subject:
> > > RE:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > How did you have them Steve?
> > > I asked this over at the Honda 600 Owners board but didn?t get an > > > answer, how much spark should I see with these?
> > > Mine is nice and blue but the spark itself is very thin and hard > > > to see, I had to turn off my garage lights to see it well as I could barely > > > see it with the lights on.
> > > I am used to checking cars with a larger coil and those have a > > > fatter spark.
> > > Mike
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.
> > > com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups ..com]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Steven Michelsen
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday, August 09, 2008
> > > 7:08 AM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > Mark,
> > > I think
> > > you're right about the condensor wire!  I redid the wiring and will > > > reinstall tonight.
> > > Here is how it is wired now
> > > .  Please let me
> > > know if this is right.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > > -----
> > > Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > "Mark" > > doc_coffin@yahoo. com
> > > To: > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent:
> > > Friday, August 08, 2008 11:30 PM
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > > ---
> > > In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > ,
> > > "Mark Kuran" wrote:
> > > >> Check if you have a spark coming out of the wires to the spark plugs
> > > >> while cranking.
> > > >> Mark
> > > > If no spark, check that you have the condenser wire in between the
> > > > proper washers and insulators. This very small eror has messed me up
> > > > several times!
> > > > Mark Coffin
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
geez_tech
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:34 pm

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by geez_tech »

Mine were blackwall
--- In anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com, JN wrote:
> are the tires you bought black wall or white wall?� I'll check the
web sight.� I have heard of that place.
> --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Mike and Tami Speer wrote:
> From: Mike and Tami Speer
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] anyone know where to get 145/89 R
WW10" tires?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:07 PM
> I bought mine at www.tirerack. com
> Mike
> �
> From: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of JN
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03,
> 2008 4:57 PM
> To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> �
> Coker has bias in ww but very pricey @ $106 plus $14
> for the tube.
> --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Steven Michelsen
> wrote:
> From: Steven Michelsen
>
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in
the middle of
> a tuneup
> To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ,
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:20 PM
> OK, here is an update on the "tuneup" (AKA
> trying to get the coupe to start)
> �
> Yesterday, I replaced the points and condensor.� set
> the gap on the points.� I did not (yet) replace the blue wire,
though it
> was a bit chewed up (meter showed it to not be broken).� The car
started
> right up and ran well.� I drove it to a local weekly show, then
(almost)
> home.� The car died suddenly while coasting to a light.� After
> messing with the points some more I gave up and called AAA.
> �
> Today I rebuilt the blue cable with 16 gauge wire and new
> ends.� I installed it -�and the OLD condensor, just to see if it
> was still good.� I redid the points gap.� The car started up
> immediately.� I let it idle for a while.� no problem.� I noted
> a wisp of smoke coming up from the engine bay, took a look, and
found that
> the three wires that run from the engine to the rectifier were
melting
> together at the connectors.� Here is an
> old picture of those wires.� Turned the car off, stripped
> the�black wrap from the wires and found them fused together for a
few
> inches going back towards the rectifier.� I pulled the battery
and tray
> and flipped it over to see the other ends of the wires (they will
be replaced
> altogether).� The rectifier is buried in YEARS of road crud - it's
> amazing the thing worked at all.� I will be cleaning all of that
up.
> �
> Why did the wires melt?� Might the rectifier have an
> issue?� Or maybe the connectors just corroded?� Any maintainence
to
> do on the rectifier other than clean it?� What gauge wire should
I use
> to replace the three bad ones?� I plan to use weatherproof bullet
> connectors at the point where they meet the wires from the motor,
rather than
> the spade-type that was originally there.
> �
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven Michelsen
> To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> com
> Sent: Sunday, August
> 10, 2008 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> �
> Mike,
> I am pretty sure I had both wires in the center when I
> tried to start the car.
> No chance to reinstall the points or do any testing until
> tomorrow night at the earliest; I will pass along my findings.
> Thanks,
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike
> and Tami Speer
> To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> com
> Sent: Saturday, August
> 09, 2008 11:07 AM
> Subject: RE:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> �
> How did you have them Steve?
> I asked this over at the Honda 600 Owners board but didn?t get an
> answer, how much spark should I see with these?
> Mine is nice and blue but the spark itself is very thin and hard
> to see, I had to turn off my garage lights to see it well as I
could barely
> see it with the lights on.
> I am used to checking cars with a larger coil and those have a
> fatter spark.
> Mike
> �
> From: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.
> com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups ..com] On Behalf Of
Steven Michelsen
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008
> 7:08 AM
> To: 2cylinderhondas@
> yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> �
> Mark,
> �
> I think
> you're right about the condensor wire!� I redid the wiring and
will
> reinstall tonight.� Here is how it is�wired now.� Please let me
> know if this is right.
> �
> Thanks,
> Steve
> �
> -----
> Original Message -----
> From:
> "Mark"
> To: yahoogroups. com>
> Sent:
> Friday, August 08, 2008 11:30 PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> �
> > ---
> In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com,
> "Mark Kuran" wrote:
> >> Check if you have a spark coming out of the wires to the spark
plugs
> >> while cranking.
> >> Mark
> > If no spark, check that you have the condenser wire in between
the
> > proper washers and insulators. This very small eror has messed
me up
> > several times!
> > Mark Coffin
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
JN
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:37 am

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by JN »

where can I get the 10" tubes locally?
--- On
Thu, 9/4/08, geez_tech

wrote:
> From: geez_tech
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 1:14 PM
> Mine were blackwall
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> , JN wrote:
> > are the tires you bought black wall or white wall?  I'll check the
> web sight.  I have heard of that place.
> > --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Mike and Tami Speer wrote:
> > From: Mike and Tami Speer
> > Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] anyone know where to get 145/89 R
> WW10" tires?
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:07 PM
> > I bought mine at www.tirerack. com
> > Mike
> > From: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of JN
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03,
> > 2008 4:57 PM
> > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> > Coker has bias in ww but very pricey @ $106 plus $14
> > for the tube.
> > --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Steven Michelsen
> > wrote:
> > From: Steven Michelsen
> >
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in
> the middle of
> > a tuneup
> > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com ,
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:20 PM
> > OK, here is an update on the "tuneup" (AKA
> > trying to get the coupe to start)
> > Yesterday, I replaced the points and condensor.  set
> > the gap on the points.  I did not (yet) replace the blue wire,
> though it
> > was a bit chewed up (meter showed it to not be broken).  The car
> started
> > right up and ran well.  I drove it to a local weekly show, then
> (almost)
> > home.  The car died suddenly while coasting to a light.  After
> > messing with the points some more I gave up and called AAA.
> > Today I rebuilt the blue cable with 16 gauge wire and new
> > ends.  I installed it - and the OLD condensor, just to see if it
> > was still good.  I redid the points gap.  The car started up
> > immediately.  I let it idle for a while.  no problem.  I noted
> > a wisp of smoke coming up from the engine bay, took a look, and
> found that
> > the three wires that run from the engine to the rectifier were
> melting
> > together at the connectors.  Here is an
> > old picture of those wires.  Turned the car off, stripped
> > the black wrap from the wires and found them fused together for a
> few
> > inches going back towards the rectifier.  I pulled the battery
> and tray
> > and flipped it over to see the other ends of the wires (they will
> be replaced
> > altogether).  The rectifier is buried in YEARS of road crud - it's
> > amazing the thing worked at all.  I will be cleaning all of that
> up.
> > Why did the wires melt?  Might the rectifier have an
> > issue?  Or maybe the connectors just corroded?  Any maintainence
> to
> > do on the rectifier other than clean it?  What gauge wire should
> I use
> > to replace the three bad ones?  I plan to use weatherproof bullet
> > connectors at the point where they meet the wires from the motor,
> rather than
> > the spade-type that was originally there.
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steven Michelsen
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> > com
> > Sent: Sunday, August
> > 10, 2008 12:36 AM
> > Subject: Re:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > Mike,
> > I am pretty sure I had both wires in the center when I
> > tried to start the car.
> > No chance to reinstall the points or do any testing until
> > tomorrow night at the earliest; I will pass along my findings.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike
> > and Tami Speer
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. .
> > com
> > Sent: Saturday, August
> > 09, 2008 11:07 AM
> > Subject: RE:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > How did you have them Steve?
> > I asked this over at the Honda 600 Owners board but didn?t get an
> > answer, how much spark should I see with these?
> > Mine is nice and blue but the spark itself is very thin and hard
> > to see, I had to turn off my garage lights to see it well as I
> could barely
> > see it with the lights on.
> > I am used to checking cars with a larger coil and those have a
> > fatter spark.
> > Mike
> > From: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.
> > com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups ..com] On Behalf Of
> Steven Michelsen
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008
> > 7:08 AM
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@
> > yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > Mark,
> > I think
> > you're right about the condensor wire!  I redid the wiring and
> will
> > reinstall tonight.  Here is how it is wired now.  Please let me
> > know if this is right.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > -----
> > Original Message -----
> > From:
> > "Mark"
> > To: > yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent:
> > Friday, August 08, 2008 11:30 PM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup
> > > ---
> > In 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com,
> > "Mark Kuran" wrote:
> > >> Check if you have a spark coming out of the wires to the spark
> plugs
> > >> while cranking.
> > >> Mark
> > > If no spark, check that you have the condenser wire in between
> the
> > > proper washers and insulators. This very small eror has messed
> me up
> > > several times!
> > > Mark Coffin
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
Burgess Howell
Posts: 3
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 12:07 am

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by Burgess Howell »

I noticed recently that 10" Port-A-Walls are being manufactured
again. Anyone tried those?
At $40/set, it might be worth a shot.
JN
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:37 am

Re: anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?

Post by JN »

YES YES YES: on that size tire, they don't work.  I paid a shop to put them on: you have to dismantle the tire to have them squeezed by the tire, as you know.  When I left the shop, the rotation of the tire on the freeway (?) caused them to come loose.  They do work on bigger tires, however if you put the wide ones on, they don't look good because at the bottom as the weight of the car causes the tires to bulge a little  they don't seat well.  Over and above that, they only last about 6 months and they get wavey, crack from the smog/heat and look terrible.  Also DON'T USE tire paint.  I've tried it all: IT DOESN'T WORK: it peels off and looks worse than black walls.  Save for real white walls.
There was a guy who had a machine around Temple City area which cuts a white wall into a black tire.  Under the blackwall is a white wall.  I heard the place burned down last year.
Anyone know some who is doing it?
--- On
Thu, 9/4/08, Burgess Howell

wrote:
> From: Burgess Howell
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] anyone know where to get 145/89 R WW10" tires?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 2:20 PM
> I noticed recently that 10" Port-A-Walls are being manufactured
> again. Anyone tried those?
> At $40/set, it might be worth a shot.
mterrens
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:36 am

Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck in the middle of a tuneup

Post by mterrens »

OK, I scraped the crud and calcification off the rectifier, removed the three old cable ends (tons of solder on there!), painted the battery tray, built new cables and put it all back together.  It's all good and moving down the street as it should!   I checked the new connectors after 30 minutes of driving - no unusual heat buildup.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> goinhm@...
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:32
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: stuck
> in the middle of a tuneup
> Hi Mike,
>     No maintenance is necessary for the rectifier.
> It either works or it doesn't.
> You might keep it clean, though.  As a result of the current through > it,  it may
> generate several watts of heat.
>      I don't think Steve is having a problem with the
> rectifier.  I think he is experiencing
> intermittent shorting where one (or more) of the 3 white wires from the > alternator is
> shorting to the chassis or shorting to one of its neighboring white > wires.  This causes
> the alternator to have to generate a lot of current and the motor doesn't > have enough
> hp to sustain it.   I think Steve could have disconnected his > alternator,  taped off the wires from
> the alternator,  and started his car and driven home.  The > battery power would have been
> sufficient to keep the car running till he arrived home (especially if he > wasn't using headlights).
> Dale
> > Is there any
> > maintenance that needs to be done to the rectifier?
> > Mike
> It's only a deal if it's where
> you
> want to go. Find your travel deal
> here
> .
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG -
> http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 -
> Release Date: 8/30/2008 5:18 PM
Post Reply