Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 600 noise

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dealadayray
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Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 600 noise

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Hi there Group...
I asked the question from NAPA the other day and received the following
answer. As you said, WIX was the filter manufacturer before for NAPA but as
they are not making them any longer NAPA too is not offering them.
Selected stores may have them in stock, but on line does not show them.
Best bet is to go to your local NAPA manufacturer and using the number that
has been provided to see if there are any still on the shelf.
As to the remote filter, there are draw backs, 1-don't mix your lines (in
and out) up, it will cause your filter to burst. 2-don't run across curbs
or any objects which can cause the fittings to be knocked off, loss of oil
will cause a catastrophic event. 3-It adds almost another quart of oil to
the system which is great, but you still need to change it just as before.
4-Fill the filter before installing it, the flow from your Honda oil pump
can cause the pressure valve internal to the filter to close and again cause
the filter to burst. 5-the filter is a PH-8A, which normally sells for
$2.00 on sale, but you have to stand in line with Ford owners, just don't
tell the counter guy your buying it for a Honda. I had one guy tell me he
knew Ford was building XJ8's but he had not heard they were making Honda's.
Bill
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Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 600 noise

Post by dealadayray »

Hi Ricebutner;
Your correct there are no roller bearings on the upper end, there is
however a babbitted (bearing) on the upper end of the rod. Babbitting is a
bearing material used in many non-roller bearing applications. Most are
oiled by pressure however Honda uses splash. The upper piston pin on the
Honda 600 is free floating and if the temperature reaches the point of
changing your oil to tar your wrist pin will stop floating and seize. I
have also seen the upper end of the rod over size when a oil pump rod stops
working, again heat being the cause of the departure from spec. The best
answer for a cure is to use an over sized wrist pin when changing your
piston during overhaul. Be aware that the upper end of the piston rod as
well as the piston have to be bored to the same spec for the new (Over
sized) wrist pin. I have a set of reamers that are adjustable and allows
you to use the old wrist pin to act as an alignment tool so that all three
surfaces (the rod and both sides of the piston) are in line.
The Question: What do you look for on the upper end of the rod? The
Honda shop manual gives a good trouble shooting guide to test the upper end
of the rod. Visual lead might be looking for galling, cracks and Egg
shaping of the bearing surface. The best way to check out your crankshaft
is to pull it, take it to the bench and do all the recommended tests.
Remember when your Honda 600 goes into self destruct mode, there is not much
time left. But I know of several Honda 600 engines that have run for years
with an upper end rod knock.
Bill
honda600js
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Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 600 noise

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honda600js
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Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 600 noise

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Hi. How much do you chrge for the external oil cooler kit and how available
is it. Thank you.James
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