Two questions: How do you get a headliner out of a sedan?
What will clean a headliner?
Headliner
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dealadayray
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Re: Headliner
Well Joe;
What makes the head liner look dirty is the glue holding the foam rubber
in place giving the puffy look to your head liner. Since the Foam has all
but gone away the glue has discolored the fabric. So washing may make it
worse especially if you use a cleaning agent like 409.
Almost 11 years ago, Harry Lineback and I had the same problem while he
was restoring his sedan. How to remove the head liner, first remove the
rear view mirror, visors, and locate three inch long clips which are riveted
to a bar that stretches across the front of the visor. So we thought some
special tools were necessary if we wanted to take the liner out and not rip
it to shreds. Locating some fairly strong sheet metal we bent/fabricated
two tools. One to hold the metal 1/2 inch by about 3/4 inch metal clip
holding it tight to the front sheet metal lip above the wind shield. Then
we additionally cut a almost 3/4 inch slot about 1/6 of an inch deep. It
works like this, Locate the clip, put the larger of the two tools on it and
push it away from the cars sheet metal lip. Then use the other tool to lift
the head liner clip up and over the Sheet Metal lip and free the head liner
from the front of the car. This is the same with the rear of the car. then
slide the cross bars down a ways so you car turn them side ways and take
them down.
Note: I put a few pictures on the Group Page for ANZ Group so
you can see what the tools look like. They really make the job so easy.
As I said earlier cleaning is not an option, it only makes it worse. So
if the liner is in good condition, take it to an upholstery shop and have a
new one made. Or if it is only discolored and otherwise a really nice
headliner. Hang it vertical and inside your garage or other well
ventilated room. And purchase two items. I like SEM Phantom White #15003,
flexible Color Coat for Vinyl and rigid plastics, carpet or even velour.
The stuff is great. But you will also need SEM Vinyl Prep #3834. This is a
must and if you don't follow the directions on the can, it will fall off.
Cleaning here is really important as is any painting, everything is in the
preparation of the surface to be painted. After reading and following all
the instructions, which means you applied a number of dry coats instead of
one wet coat, your head liner should look as new.
Now you will need a friend (who listens to you) to assist you in
replacing the head liner. Here use the tools again, but use a clean cloth
over the edge that will be touching the headliner. And your done.
Normally one can and bottle of prep will do a couple of headliners.
Bill
What makes the head liner look dirty is the glue holding the foam rubber
in place giving the puffy look to your head liner. Since the Foam has all
but gone away the glue has discolored the fabric. So washing may make it
worse especially if you use a cleaning agent like 409.
Almost 11 years ago, Harry Lineback and I had the same problem while he
was restoring his sedan. How to remove the head liner, first remove the
rear view mirror, visors, and locate three inch long clips which are riveted
to a bar that stretches across the front of the visor. So we thought some
special tools were necessary if we wanted to take the liner out and not rip
it to shreds. Locating some fairly strong sheet metal we bent/fabricated
two tools. One to hold the metal 1/2 inch by about 3/4 inch metal clip
holding it tight to the front sheet metal lip above the wind shield. Then
we additionally cut a almost 3/4 inch slot about 1/6 of an inch deep. It
works like this, Locate the clip, put the larger of the two tools on it and
push it away from the cars sheet metal lip. Then use the other tool to lift
the head liner clip up and over the Sheet Metal lip and free the head liner
from the front of the car. This is the same with the rear of the car. then
slide the cross bars down a ways so you car turn them side ways and take
them down.
Note: I put a few pictures on the Group Page for ANZ Group so
you can see what the tools look like. They really make the job so easy.
As I said earlier cleaning is not an option, it only makes it worse. So
if the liner is in good condition, take it to an upholstery shop and have a
new one made. Or if it is only discolored and otherwise a really nice
headliner. Hang it vertical and inside your garage or other well
ventilated room. And purchase two items. I like SEM Phantom White #15003,
flexible Color Coat for Vinyl and rigid plastics, carpet or even velour.
The stuff is great. But you will also need SEM Vinyl Prep #3834. This is a
must and if you don't follow the directions on the can, it will fall off.
Cleaning here is really important as is any painting, everything is in the
preparation of the surface to be painted. After reading and following all
the instructions, which means you applied a number of dry coats instead of
one wet coat, your head liner should look as new.
Now you will need a friend (who listens to you) to assist you in
replacing the head liner. Here use the tools again, but use a clean cloth
over the edge that will be touching the headliner. And your done.
Normally one can and bottle of prep will do a couple of headliners.
Bill
Re: Headliner
Joe,
I have a source of headliners that are custom made, I had to have this done
as Honda no longer supports this. Give me a call if your interested, on
XXX-XXX-XXXX
regards,
steven
isettajoe wrote:
I have a source of headliners that are custom made, I had to have this done
as Honda no longer supports this. Give me a call if your interested, on
XXX-XXX-XXXX
regards,
steven
isettajoe wrote:
> Two questions: How do you get a headliner out of a sedan?
> What will clean a headliner?
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Re: Headliner
Headliner is held in with clips front and rear. If you can grab ahold
of one of the tension ribs you can pull it down off the roof and
scooch it back enough to pop clips out. There is a thin layer of foam
under the headliner.
You can easily clean the headliner with bleech & water solution, if
you do iy in car, get some ventillation and wear goggles, that stuff
burns!
Miles
of one of the tension ribs you can pull it down off the roof and
scooch it back enough to pop clips out. There is a thin layer of foam
under the headliner.
You can easily clean the headliner with bleech & water solution, if
you do iy in car, get some ventillation and wear goggles, that stuff
burns!
Miles
--- In 2cylinderhondas@y..., STEVEN wrote:
> Joe,
> I have a source of headliners that are custom made, I had to have
this done
> as Honda no longer supports this. Give me a call if your
interested, on
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> regards,
> steven
> isettajoe wrote:
> > Two questions: How do you get a headliner out of a sedan?
> > What will clean a headliner?
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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dealadayray
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Re: Headliner
I must have missed this. But, I don't believe Bleach is the way to go, like
some of the other cleaning products it's corrosive, 30 year old thread will
succumb to the ravages of Bleach just as the blue color in your jeans will.
Get to much of that stuff on your head liner and the sewn together cross
bars to the head liner holding it up will part and then there will be
trouble. It may be ok for the vinyl but the thread will dissolve if the
strength of the bleach is to much. And, to little will leave the yellow
stain from the padding glue.
Bill
some of the other cleaning products it's corrosive, 30 year old thread will
succumb to the ravages of Bleach just as the blue color in your jeans will.
Get to much of that stuff on your head liner and the sewn together cross
bars to the head liner holding it up will part and then there will be
trouble. It may be ok for the vinyl but the thread will dissolve if the
strength of the bleach is to much. And, to little will leave the yellow
stain from the padding glue.
Bill
Re: Headliner
-I took the headliner out of one of my parts cars on Labor Day. I
will try cleaning it and then decide what to try on the one still in
the car.
will try cleaning it and then decide what to try on the one still in
the car.
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kristoferdahl
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:05 am
Headliner
I'm wondering if anyone has a recommended method for safely removing a
headliner from an N600/Z600 so that it can be put back?
I need to pop some dents, etc. out of the roofs of the cars, but their
headliners are in good shape so I'd like to reuse them.
Also I have a couple of Coupes that seem like they are white, but I'm
trying to determine if they are actually faded spring yellows? The
plastic 'hatches' are definately more yellow than white. The insides
of the doors seem a bit more yellow as well. Does the spring yellow
fade pretty much down to white?
-k
headliner from an N600/Z600 so that it can be put back?
I need to pop some dents, etc. out of the roofs of the cars, but their
headliners are in good shape so I'd like to reuse them.
Also I have a couple of Coupes that seem like they are white, but I'm
trying to determine if they are actually faded spring yellows? The
plastic 'hatches' are definately more yellow than white. The insides
of the doors seem a bit more yellow as well. Does the spring yellow
fade pretty much down to white?
-k
Re: Headliner
There are homemade headliner tools photos on the group site, as described
below...
http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ ... e/fae7?m=l
Here is what Bill C said on the topic in 2002, originally in post
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/anz ... essage/251
What makes the head liner look dirty is the glue holding the foam rubber
in place giving the puffy look to your head liner. Since the Foam has all
but gone away the glue has discolored the fabric. So washing may make it
worse especially if you use a cleaning agent like 409.
Almost 11 years ago, Harry Lineback and I had the same problem while he
was restoring his sedan. How to remove the head liner, first remove the
rear view mirror, visors, and locate three inch long clips which are riveted
to a bar that stretches across the front of the visor. So we thought some
special tools were necessary if we wanted to take the liner out and not rip
it to shreds. Locating some fairly strong sheet metal we bent/fabricated
two tools. One to hold the metal 1/2 inch by about 3/4 inch metal clip
holding it tight to the front sheet metal lip above the wind shield. Then
we additionally cut a almost 3/4 inch slot about 1/6 of an inch deep. It
works like this, Locate the clip, put the larger of the two tools on it and
push it away from the cars sheet metal lip. Then use the other tool to lift
the head liner clip up and over the Sheet Metal lip and free the head liner
from the front of the car. This is the same with the rear of the car. then
slide the cross bars down a ways so you car turn them side ways and take
them down.
Note: I put a few pictures on the Group Page for ANZ Group so
you can see what the tools look like. They really make the job so easy.
As I said earlier cleaning is not an option, it only makes it worse. So
if the liner is in good condition, take it to an upholstery shop and have a
new one made. Or if it is only discolored and otherwise a really nice
headliner. Hang it vertical and inside your garage or other well
ventilated room. And purchase two items. I like SEM Phantom White #15003,
flexible Color Coat for Vinyl and rigid plastics, carpet or even velour.
The stuff is great. But you will also need SEM Vinyl Prep #3834. This is a
must and if you don't follow the directions on the can, it will fall off.
Cleaning here is really important as is any painting, everything is in the
preparation of the surface to be painted. After reading and following all
the instructions, which means you applied a number of dry coats instead of
one wet coat, your head liner should look as new.
Now you will need a friend (who listens to you) to assist you in
replacing the head liner. Here use the tools again, but use a clean cloth
over the edge that will be touching the headliner. And your done.
Normally one can and bottle of prep will do a couple of headliners.
Bill
below...
http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ ... e/fae7?m=l
Here is what Bill C said on the topic in 2002, originally in post
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/anz ... essage/251
What makes the head liner look dirty is the glue holding the foam rubber
in place giving the puffy look to your head liner. Since the Foam has all
but gone away the glue has discolored the fabric. So washing may make it
worse especially if you use a cleaning agent like 409.
Almost 11 years ago, Harry Lineback and I had the same problem while he
was restoring his sedan. How to remove the head liner, first remove the
rear view mirror, visors, and locate three inch long clips which are riveted
to a bar that stretches across the front of the visor. So we thought some
special tools were necessary if we wanted to take the liner out and not rip
it to shreds. Locating some fairly strong sheet metal we bent/fabricated
two tools. One to hold the metal 1/2 inch by about 3/4 inch metal clip
holding it tight to the front sheet metal lip above the wind shield. Then
we additionally cut a almost 3/4 inch slot about 1/6 of an inch deep. It
works like this, Locate the clip, put the larger of the two tools on it and
push it away from the cars sheet metal lip. Then use the other tool to lift
the head liner clip up and over the Sheet Metal lip and free the head liner
from the front of the car. This is the same with the rear of the car. then
slide the cross bars down a ways so you car turn them side ways and take
them down.
Note: I put a few pictures on the Group Page for ANZ Group so
you can see what the tools look like. They really make the job so easy.
As I said earlier cleaning is not an option, it only makes it worse. So
if the liner is in good condition, take it to an upholstery shop and have a
new one made. Or if it is only discolored and otherwise a really nice
headliner. Hang it vertical and inside your garage or other well
ventilated room. And purchase two items. I like SEM Phantom White #15003,
flexible Color Coat for Vinyl and rigid plastics, carpet or even velour.
The stuff is great. But you will also need SEM Vinyl Prep #3834. This is a
must and if you don't follow the directions on the can, it will fall off.
Cleaning here is really important as is any painting, everything is in the
preparation of the surface to be painted. After reading and following all
the instructions, which means you applied a number of dry coats instead of
one wet coat, your head liner should look as new.
Now you will need a friend (who listens to you) to assist you in
replacing the head liner. Here use the tools again, but use a clean cloth
over the edge that will be touching the headliner. And your done.
Normally one can and bottle of prep will do a couple of headliners.
Bill
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Re: Headliner
The yellow will definitely fade to an "antique" or dirty white. My first Honda was a 1970 N360 which I obtained in Panama in 1972 while I was in the military. In just two years under the sun and rain of the tropics it had severely faded. My first clues were the areas around the door frame, inside the trunk lid and under the hood which were all obviously yellow. A lot of polishing compound and even more elbow grease and it came back to life in its original yellow. Several additional coats of wax seemed to help slow the fade. I had it about 18 months before shipping home and it was still yellow when I left. A friend of mine had a blue 1969 N360 and the paint was in much better shape. I don't believe it had seen any wax until I waxed it for him. It did not need any polishing compound to brighten it up.
--- On
Sat, 9/6/08,
kristoferdahl
wrote:
> From: kristoferdahl
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Headliner
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 2:41 PM
> I'm wondering if anyone has a recommended method for safely removing a > headliner from an N600/Z600 so that it can be put back?
> I need to pop some dents, etc. out of the roofs of the cars, but their > headliners are in good shape so I'd like to reuse them.
> Also I have a couple of Coupes that seem like they are white, but I'm > trying to determine if they are actually faded spring yellows? The > plastic 'hatches' are definately more yellow than white. The insides > of the doors seem a bit more yellow as well. Does the spring yellow > fade pretty much down to white?
> -k
> ------------------------------------
Re: Headliner
Steve;
Note; The head liner on the coupe cant be removed without removing the windshield. And a putty knife will do well to push down on the head liner holding tangs. If you need to get it done for either I need the old head liner and I can get it remade.
Bill
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Note; The head liner on the coupe cant be removed without removing the windshield. And a putty knife will do well to push down on the head liner holding tangs. If you need to get it done for either I need the old head liner and I can get it remade.
Bill
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