Cam grind specs?

[friend]

What's the engine number?

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> [2cylinderhondas] Re: Cam grind specs?
> Your Hawaiian cam could also be one of the aftermarket cams which was > available in the 1970s.  J & J Performance sold a package consisting > of a cam and pistons to increase the power output.  I believe there cam > was supplied with lash caps to place on the valves.  I don't think > the Hawaiian cam used lash caps.
> Is the major diameter on both of your cams the same?
> Dale
> > I
> > think I might have one - just found two rusty cams that looked different > > when sorting out parts - so one is a Hawaiian cam. (I remember stripping a > > car at a wrecking yard years ago before I knew about the Hawaiian cars. It > > had a roasted cam bearing and cam end. If I'd known better I never would > > have junked it.) > > Also - the ratio is not quite constant - since the > > rocker arm shaft has an off-centered lobe for setting lash it rocks/changes > > a bit. Jimmy at Megacycle (a cam genius/expert) showed me the drawing he did > > when trying to figure out the actual ratio. It varies as the rocker moves > > back and forth . . .

[jpro8071]

Unfortunately it's been years since I stripped it. I've got 7 or 8 cases floating around the garage and shed - plus I've given some away.
When the glovebox book shows up I'll see how much of it is readable.

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> What's the engine number?
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> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Cam grind specs?
> Your Hawaiian cam could also be one of the aftermarket cams which was
> available in the 1970s. J & J Performance sold a package consisting of a
> cam and pistons to increase the power output. I believe there cam was
> supplied with lash caps to place on the valves. I don't think the Hawaiian
> cam used lash caps.
> Is the major diameter on both of your cams the same?
> Dale
> I think I might have one - just found two rusty cams that looked
> different when sorting out parts - so one is a Hawaiian cam. (I remember
> stripping a car at a wrecking yard years ago before I knew about the
> Hawaiian cars. It had a roasted cam bearing and cam end. If I'd known better
> I never would have junked it.)
> Also - the ratio is not quite constant - since the rocker arm shaft has
> an off-centered lobe for setting lash it rocks/changes a bit. Jimmy at
> Megacycle (a cam genius/expert) showed me the drawing he did when trying to
> figure out the actual ratio. It varies as the rocker moves back and forth .
> . .

[Linda Classon]

I've got a 1971 sedan that seems to need a fuel pump (It's got a new
rebuilt carb, the gas lines are good, the tank has been relined, yet
it doesn't get enough gas at higher speeds).
Does anyone have one available and if so, how much would it be?
Thanks!
Linda

[dean m]

intall a universal one that runs 5-7psi , they are about 30 bucks at your local autoparts store , also did you clean out the tiny screen inside the carb that might be the problem also

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wrote:
> From: Linda Classon
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Fuel Pump?
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "Anzhonda600owners" > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 4:04 PM
> I've got a 1971 sedan that seems to need a fuel pump (It's got a new
> rebuilt carb, the gas lines are good, the tank has been relined, yet
> it doesn't get enough gas at higher speeds).
> Does anyone have one available and if so, how much would it be?
> Thanks!
> Linda

[friend]

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Hi Linda;
    There is a bit more to it than just the screen below the needle valve in the carb, if you find problems there then I would say the carb rebuild is suspect.  I think it was Miles that said, that although the needle valve from a Honda Gold Wing carb rebuild kit will fit, it restricts flow, starving your engine at higher RPM's.  And, if the tab on the float is bent to much it may be closing the needle valve to soon, causing the bowl not to fill.
     Also, you didn't mention that you changed the fuel filter.  The fuel filter should also be looked at.  When checking out the fuel filter, pull the fuel pump and filter as one unit.  (removing the heater fan motor is the best way to get to the fuel pump on the Sedan, more hose tips on a fuel pump have been cracked or broken off by trying to remove the filter with the fuel pump still in place)  Then reverse the flow to see if there is any junk in the filter.  Then check the flow of the filter.  Even a new filter can collect debris after all the work you did to your car.
    If every thing still checks out, and you're sure sure the carb is good, look at all the lines for crimps.
Driving down the road and having a rock jump up and ding your fuel line has happened before.  I even found a fuel line that had been almost flattened by some one putting a jack stand in the wrong place.
Bill

[feltonminicycle]

Yea, What Bill Said ! Bruce Whiting is the one who found the restricted flow from using the smaller seat. He supplies the correct needle/seat sets and is back in the country. He also now has the upgraded version of accelerator pumps and other carb parts. You can email him
theenginebuilder@...
I Doubt your pump is bad.
Miles

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2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
> Hi Linda;
> There is a bit more to it than just the screen below the needle valve in the carb, if you find problems there then I would say the carb rebuild is suspect. I think it was Miles that said, that although the needle valve from a Honda Gold Wing carb rebuild kit will fit, it restricts flow, starving your engine at higher RPM's. And, if the tab on the float is bent to much it may be closing the needle valve to soon, causing the bowl not to fill.
> Also, you didn't mention that you changed the fuel filter. The fuel filter should also be looked at. When checking out the fuel filter, pull the fuel pump and filter as one unit. (removing the heater fan motor is the best way to get to the fuel pump on the Sedan, more hose tips on a fuel pump have been cracked or broken off by trying to remove the filter with the fuel pump still in place) Then reverse the flow to see if there is any junk in the filter. Then check the flow of the filter. Even a new filter can collect debris after all the work you did to your car.
> If every thing still checks out, and you're sure sure the carb is good, look at all the lines for crimps. Driving down the road and having a rock jump up and ding your fuel line has happened before. I even found a fuel line that had been almost flattened by some one putting a jack stand in the wrong place.
> Bill
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> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:09 PM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Fuel Pump?
> intall a universal one that runs 5-7psi , they are about 30 bucks at your local autoparts store , also did you clean out the tiny screen inside the carb that might be the problem also
> --- On Fri, 8/6/10, Linda Classon wrote:
> From: Linda Classon
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Fuel Pump?
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "Anzhonda600owners" Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 4:04 PM
> I've got a 1971 sedan that seems to need a fuel pump (It's got a new
> rebuilt carb, the gas lines are good, the tank has been relined, yet
> it doesn't get enough gas at higher speeds).
> Does anyone have one available and if so, how much would it be?
> Thanks!
> Linda

[lyletrudell]

What after market pump should we use?
I want to put it back in the stock location under the back seat.
I used the Carter P60504 on my Opel-GT, but it looks too long for the Honda.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?key ... 0504&dds=1
The Carter P4070 looks like it might fit.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRT-P4070/
?
Lyle

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2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
> intall a universal one that runs 5-7psi , they are about 30 bucks at your local autoparts store , also did you clean out the tiny screen inside the carb that might be the problem also
> --- On Fri, 8/6/10, Linda Classon wrote:
> From: Linda Classon
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Fuel Pump?
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "Anzhonda600owners" Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 4:04 PM
> I've got a 1971 sedan that seems to need a fuel pump (It's got a new
> rebuilt carb, the gas lines are good, the tank has been relined, yet
> it doesn't get enough gas at higher speeds).
> Does anyone have one available and if so, how much would it be?
> Thanks!
> Linda

[Linda Classon]

Thanks everyone, for all the input. Will start checking filters,
screens & needle valve before installing a new fuel filter.
Linda

On Aug 7, 2010, at 11:42 AM, feltonminicycle wrote:
> Yea, What Bill Said ! Bruce Whiting is the one who found the
> restricted flow from using the smaller seat. He supplies the correct
> needle/seat sets and is back in the country. He also now has the
> upgraded version of accelerator pumps and other carb parts. You can
> email him
theenginebuilder@...
> I Doubt your pump is bad.
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
>> Hi Linda;
>> There is a bit more to it than just the screen below the needle
>> valve in the carb, if you find problems there then I would say the
>> carb rebuild is suspect. I think it was Miles that said, that
>> although the needle valve from a Honda Gold Wing carb rebuild kit
>> will fit, it restricts flow, starving your engine at higher RPM's.
>> And, if the tab on the float is bent to much it may be closing the
>> needle valve to soon, causing the bowl not to fill.
>> Also, you didn't mention that you changed the fuel filter. The
>> fuel filter should also be looked at. When checking out the fuel
>> filter, pull the fuel pump and filter as one unit. (removing the
>> heater fan motor is the best way to get to the fuel pump on the
>> Sedan, more hose tips on a fuel pump have been cracked or broken
>> off by trying to remove the filter with the fuel pump still in
>> place) Then reverse the flow to see if there is any junk in the
>> filter. Then check the flow of the filter. Even a new filter can
>> collect debris after all the work you did to your car.
>> If every thing still checks out, and you're sure sure the carb
>> is good, look at all the lines for crimps. Driving down the road
>> and having a rock jump up and ding your fuel line has happened
>> before. I even found a fuel line that had been almost flattened by
>> some one putting a jack stand in the wrong place.
>> Bill
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>> ]On Behalf Of dean m
>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:09 PM
>> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Fuel Pump?
>> intall a universal one that runs 5-7psi , they are about 30
>> bucks at your local autoparts store , also did you clean out the
>> tiny screen inside the carb that might be the problem also
>> --- On Fri, 8/6/10, Linda Classon wrote:
>> From: Linda Classon
>> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Fuel Pump?
>> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc: "Anzhonda600owners" > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 4:04 PM
>> I've got a 1971 sedan that seems to need a fuel pump (It's
>> got a new
>> rebuilt carb, the gas lines are good, the tank has been
>> relined, yet
>> it doesn't get enough gas at higher speeds).
>> Does anyone have one available and if so, how much would
>> it be?
>> Thanks!
>> Linda
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