Tires / Rims

[notrace07]

Yes, there may have been a little extra in there for mounting due to new valve steams and one of mine needs a tube cause it would not hold air. I'm in Nor cal too, les Schawb sends them to some place in Oregon. That's there going rate steel wheels are $20-$25 and all other wheels are $75 each. It took almost 2 weeks   The place I took my mag wheels and grill to was in north Sacramento area off Auburn and Garfield.  APC XXX-XXX-XXXX  Kurt

On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Robert James wrote:
Hey Kurt - there is a Les Schawb nearby (here in northern Calif).  In addition to removing tire and re-mounting, did the $25 per wheel include powder coating?
BOb
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM,
Damn I got mine done for $25 a rim.  If your doing the stock steel wheels you can go to Les Schawb,  if you are in a state where they are at and those are $20 each through them and they will brake them down and re-mount them as well.  $350 ouch. $150 for 4 rims and my front grill
>  Kurt
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Eric Geiger egeiger@...
> > wrote:
> > My powder coater charged me 350$ for 5 wheels.  He did all the prep and they turned out great.  Would have been cheaper if I would have sandblasted the wheels myself but I was in a hurry so I didn't have time.
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
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> > fax
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> > On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:07 AM, "Robert James" > rjamesblues@...
> > > wrote:
> > > Okay, good advice.  I am going to go for powder coating, so get them mounted and balanced afterwards will be necessary!
> > > Bob
> > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Eric Geiger
> > > > > egeiger@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Most tire shops car remove the wheels.  I just shipped around to find a place to mount and balance mine because I had them powder coated.   All but 1 place I went to had a machine small enough to do them.
> > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > PRG Nocturne
> > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > phone
> > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > fax
> > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > mobile
> > > > egeiger@...
> > > > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:47 AM, "bobs600honda" > > > rjamesblues@...
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > > > Can any tire shop handle this?
> > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > Bob

[T W S]

i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
From:
bobs600honda To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM Subject:
[anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
Any advice on removing tires from rims?
Can any tire shop handle this?
Thanks for any info.
Bob

[Robert James]

That's not good!

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:37 PM, T W S
�
> i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> From:
> bobs600honda rjamesblues@...
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> �
> Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> Can any tire shop handle this?
> Thanks for any info.
> Bob

[Bill]

Check your rims, have the shop run them on the balance machine to make sure they are not bent.
Also, bring along a web type tie down.  The one that will ratchet tight.  Use it on your tire to spread the tire on the rim.
Most shops don't have the air belt that pulls the tire against the rim.
http://www.amazon.com/Ken-Tool-31433-Pn ... B000J1Y31W
like this one that is pneumatic.  I find the web belt is easier to use and will do just as good a job as the pneumatic belt will do.
Also, Coker tire has "Port-a White Walls" that give your car the classic look.
Bill

[richmccolman]

It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
Richard

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, T W S wrote:
> i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> From: bobs600honda
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> Can any tire shop handle this?
> Thanks for any info.
> Bob

[Robert James]

Well, I might be going over the dam! �Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires. � Bob

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
�
> It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> Richard
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , T W S wrote:
> > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > From: bobs600honda
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > Can any tire shop handle this?
> > Thanks for any info.
> > Bob

[Robert James]

Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them. �As I needed the tires off to take rims to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes. �The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. �The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes? �Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
Well, I might be going over the dam! �Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires. � > Bob > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman > richmccolman@...
> wrote:
> > �
> > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> > Richard
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , T W S wrote:
> > > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > From: bobs600honda
> > > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > Can any tire shop handle this?
> > > Thanks for any info.
> > > Bob

[notrace07]

I would just put new tires back on. Coker has them in stock and will ship them to you door step and then you will most Likely never need to worry about that part again.  I had to put a tube in one of my new tires cause it would not seal properly.
 Kurt

On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Robert James wrote:
Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them.  As I needed the tires off to take rims to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes.  The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX.  The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?  Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James
Well, I might be going over the dam!  Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> Bob
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman
> richmccolman@...
> wrote:
> > It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> > If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> > Richard
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , T W S wrote:
> > > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> > > From: bobs600honda
> > > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> > > �
> > > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> > > Can any tire shop handle this?
> > > Thanks for any info.
> > > Bob

[J Graf]

Tube question: Is there any negative effect to putting tubes into "tubless" tires?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - John Graf Paragrafs.com
On Jun 13, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Robert James wrote:

> To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes.  The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX.  The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes?  Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?

[bobs600honda]

New tires is probably the best solution. The date of manufacture on the 4 Michelin tires (made in Belgium) are
A10 x 135 (the 13th week of 1995?)
A10 x 464 (the 46th week of 1994?)
A4M x 131 (the 13th week of 1991?)
A4M x 111 (the 11th week of 1991?)
I took a look at Coker and they have a Kingstire for $65 -
http://www.cokertire.com/kingstire-145-80r10.html
and the Vredestein Sprint Classic for $87.
Leaning towards the Kingstire.
Bob

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@... wrote:
> I would just put new tires back on. Coker has them in stock and will ship them to you door step and then you will most Likely never need to worry about that part again. I had to put a tube in one of my new tires cause it would not seal properly.
> Kurt
> On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Robert James wrote:
> > Ok, always learning something new, well maybe....
> > Tire shop took tires off but informed me ahead of time, that because the tires were over 10 years old, that they, and most of the 'big' tire shops would not remount them. As I needed the tires off to take rims to get powder coated, I went ahead and had it done.
> > To my surprise (but maybe I shouldn't have been), all 4 tires had inner tubes. The tires are michelin 145 SR10 ZX. The tire does not have "tubeless" on it anywhere, so are these tires suppose to have inner tubes? Or, are the tubes used to deal with a broken bead (looks like 2 tires have mangled bead due to who know what and when)?
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Robert James wrote:
> >> Well, I might be going over the dam! Heading over to America's Tires and hope for the best. They sell (and I assume mount) trailer tires.
> >> Bob
> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:08 AM, richmccolman wrote:
> >>> It's water over the dam now, but I'd recommend checking out a smaller, non-chain tire outfit next time around. That's the sort of place I went to after I'd ordered my new tires online and needed them mounted and balanced. The outfit charged me a total of $20 to mount -- and balance -- all four tires, and I hadn't even bought the tires through them! (I even offered to pay them more to make it worth their while since I hadn't bought the tires from them, but they refused any more money.) Also, there was no problem with the size of the tires and wheels -- they dealt with them just fine.
> >>> If you go to a place that deals with all sorts of tires, including boat and utility trailers and lawn tractors, they should have all the equipment needed to handle your Honda 600 wheels. The chain places are often set up to deal with run-of-the-mill car and truck tires only.
> >>> Richard
> >>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, T W S wrote:
> >>> > i went to Walmart but they couldnt do it because the rims were to small so i went to Tires Plus-they didnt give me a clear estimate and i ended up having to pay $104. That didnt put the tires on the car. They even charged for the weights they put on. If the tires wouldnt have been so hard to come by that serrvice manager would have had them where the sun dont shine.
> >>> > From: bobs600honda
> >>> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM
> >>> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Tires / Rims
> >>> > Â
> >>> > Any advice on removing tires from rims?
> >>> > Can any tire shop handle this?
> >>> > Thanks for any info.
> >>> > Bob