New N600 Owner(hopefully)

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Eric Geiger
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Eric Geiger »

Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
He also has a website honda600shop
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On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
I'm  located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me.   Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed. Lol.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas
Hi Rebekah,
> Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should > be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your > prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> I think that it is wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> Chas
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , "azhonda72" wrote:
> > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were > some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is greatly appreciated.
richmccolman
Posts: 39
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by richmccolman »

I agree with Eric and Chas:
Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.)
Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
Richard
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Eric Geiger wrote:
> Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> He also has a website honda600shop
> Eric J. Geiger
> ---------------------------------------
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> egeiger@...
> www.prgnocturne.com On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > wrote:
> I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed. Lol.
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > wrote:
> Hi Rebekah,
> Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> I think that it is wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> Chas
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Becky Flynn
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Becky Flynn »

Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman

> I agree with Eric and Chas:
> Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.)
> Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
> Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> Richard
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , Eric Geiger wrote:
> > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > He also has a website honda600shop
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
> > PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> mobile
> > egeiger@... egeiger@
> ...>
> www.prgnocturne.com
> http://www.prgnocturne.com
> > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" bfly1823@
> ...>> wrote:
> > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed. Lol.
> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas chasgould@
> ...>> wrote:
> > Hi Rebekah,
> > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> > I think that it is wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> > Chas
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> >, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Eric Geiger
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Eric Geiger »

stay away from rust.  you'll thank yourself later.  especially in the floors.
On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money > and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> richmccolman@...
> wrote:
> > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.)
> > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can > > be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like > > ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the > > engine.
> > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different > > story. So look carefully.
> > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > Richard
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > > He also has a website honda600shop
> > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > egeiger@... > egeiger@
> > ...>
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > http://www.prgnocturne.com
> > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > bfly1823@
> > ...>> wrote:
> > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed.
> > Lol.
> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > chasgould@
> > ...>> wrote:
> > > Hi Rebekah,
> > > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should > > be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your > > prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> > > I think that it is wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> > > Chas
> > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > >, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > > > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what > > were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Becky Flynn
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Becky Flynn »

I know, its just irritating� because I don't come across these cars in TN very often, let alone within an hour of my house.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Eric Geiger

> stay away from rust. �you'll thank yourself later. �especially in the floors.�
> On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > �
> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money > > and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > richmccolman@...
> > wrote:
> > > �
> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.)
> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can > > > be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like > > > ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the > > > engine.
> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different > > > story. So look carefully.
> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > > Richard
> > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > > > He also has a website honda600shop
> > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > PRG Nocturne
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > phone
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > fax
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > mobile
> > > > egeiger@... > > egeiger@
> > > ...>
> > > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > > bfly1823@
> > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed.
> > > Lol.
> > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > > chasgould@
> > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > Hi Rebekah,
> > > > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should > > > be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your > > > prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> > > > I think that it is wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> > > > Chas
> > > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > > > > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what > > > were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is greatly appreciated.
T W S
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by T W S »

DITTO,  double ditto!
From:
Eric Geiger To:
"" Sent:
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:11 PM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)
stay away from rust.  you'll thank yourself later.  especially in the floors.
On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> richmccolman@...
> wrote:
> > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.) > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > How mechanically savvy are
> > you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
> > Good luck with
> > it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > Richard
> > --- In
> > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > , Eric Geiger wrote: > > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s > > He also has a website honda600shop > > Eric J. Geiger > --------------------------------------- > > PRG Nocturne > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX > > phone > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX > > fax > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX > > mobile > > > egeiger@... > egeiger@
> > ...> >
> > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > bfly1823@
> > ...>> wrote: > > > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed. Lol. > >
> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > chasgould@
> > ...>> wrote: > > > Hi Rebekah, > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993. > I think that it is > > wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car. > Chas > >
> > > --- In
> > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > >, "azhonda72" wrote: > > > > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is > > greatly appreciated. > > >
Elias Baldwin
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Elias Baldwin »

If it's cheap enough and you have the room, a complete yet rusty Z can make a good parts car ... for one that isn't rusted.
I found my first 600 close to home as well, but it was completely rotten. I soon learned it was easier and cheaper to find a car that wasn't rusted and have it shipped (and they are out there) rather than try to fix a rotten mess that would probably never be right anyway. That said, I have been thankful many times to have a parts car, for reference if nothing else.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM, T W S

> DITTO,� double ditto!
> From:
> Eric Geiger egeiger@...
> To:
> " anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> >" anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:11 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)
> �
> stay away from rust. �you'll thank yourself later. �especially in the floors.�
> On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > �
> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > richmccolman@...
> > wrote:
> > > �
> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.) > > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > How mechanically savvy are
> > > you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
> > > Good luck with
> > > it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > > Richard
> > > --- In
> > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > , Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > > > He also has a website honda600shop
> > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > PRG Nocturne
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > phone
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > fax
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > mobile
> > > > egeiger@... > > egeiger@
> > > ...>
> > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > > bfly1823@
> > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed. Lol.
> > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > > chasgould@
> > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > Hi Rebekah,
> > > > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> > > > I think that it is
> > > wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> > > > Chas
> > > > --- In
> > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > > > > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is > > > greatly appreciated.
Becky Flynn
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Becky Flynn »

http://knoxville.ebayclassifieds.com/cl ... d=11098721
This is basically the car. He said he got his from a guy that's local as well, so I might try and find out who that was.
I don't make enough, (broke college kid) Lol, to ship one. I can afford the car, but not the shipping.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Elias Baldwin

> If it's cheap enough and you have the room, a complete yet rusty Z can make a good parts car ... for one that isn't rusted.
> I found my first 600 close to home as well, but it was completely rotten. I soon learned it was easier and cheaper to find a car that wasn't rusted and have it shipped (and they are out there) rather than try to fix a rotten mess that would probably never be right anyway. That said, I have been thankful many times to have a parts car, for reference if nothing else.
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM, T W S
> woofbiteme@...
> wrote:
> > �
> > DITTO,� double ditto!
> > From:
> > Eric Geiger > egeiger@...
> > To:
> > " > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > >" > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:11 PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)
> > �
> > stay away from rust. �you'll thank yourself later. �especially in the floors.�
> > On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > �
> > > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > richmccolman@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > �
> > > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.) > > > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> > > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > How mechanically savvy are
> > > > you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> > > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
> > > > Good luck with
> > > > it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > > > Richard
> > > > --- In
> > > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > , Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > > > > He also has a website honda600shop
> > > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > > PRG Nocturne
> > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > phone
> > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > fax
> > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > mobile
> > > > > egeiger@... > > > egeiger@
> > > > ...>
> > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > > > bfly1823@
> > > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty bummed. Lol.
> > > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > > > chasgould@
> > > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Rebekah,
> > > > > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> > > > > I think that it is
> > > > wonderful that you are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> > > > > Chas
> > > > > --- In
> > > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > >, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > > > > > My name is Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is > > > > greatly appreciated.
Eric Geiger
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Eric Geiger »

Agreed, a parts car for reference has saved me many hours when trying to put something back together that I can't remember how it goes.   They are very useful.
Those cars has been for sale for a very very long time.  I think I saw them over a year ago when I was looking for one as well.
I now have 3 and am getting a 4th later in the month.   I'm gonna have to sell one or more soon though. I plan on getting the 2 non runners running this summer then selling to find another non rusty one for a full restoration.
Eric J. Geiger
---------------------------------------
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
On May 8, 2013, at 9:30 PM, "Elias Baldwin" wrote:
If it's cheap enough and you have the room, a complete yet rusty Z can make a good parts car ... for one that isn't rusted.
I found my first 600 close to home as well, but it was completely rotten. I soon learned it was easier and cheaper to find a car that wasn't rusted and have it shipped (and they are out there) rather than try to fix a rotten mess that would probably never be right anyway. That said, I have been thankful many times to have a parts car, for reference if nothing else.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM, T W S
DITTO,  double ditto!
> From:
> Eric Geiger egeiger@...
> To:
> " anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> >" anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:11 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)
> stay away from rust.  you'll thank yourself later.  especially in the floors.
> On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I should continue to save money > > and see if something better comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > richmccolman@...
> > wrote:
> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in NC.)
> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem can > > > be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot longer.
> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things like > > > ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the > > > engine.
> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work too.
> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different > > > story. So look carefully.
> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > > Richard
> > > --- In
> > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > , Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > Depending on where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > > > He also has a website honda600shop
> > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > PRG Nocturne
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > phone
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > fax
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > mobile
> > > > egeiger@... > > egeiger@
> > > ...>
> > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky Flynn" > > bfly1823@
> > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless to say if things don't work out with this car I'm > > > going to be pretty bummed. Lol.
> > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas > > chasgould@
> > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > Hi Rebekah,
> > > > Welcome to the group and congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long > > > time. It is not a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel for the car. If it is close enough, > > > i would be happy to check out your prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has not run since 1993.
> > > > I think that it is wonderful that you are interested > > > in these cars, and you will have a blast with this car.
> > > > Chas
> > > > --- In
> > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >, "azhonda72" wrote:
> > > > > My name is Rebekah and I
> > > have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look > > > out for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is greatly appreciated.
dealadayray
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News tips in the old car hobby

Post by dealadayray »

Old Cars Weekly [special-offers@...]
Old Cars Weekly News and Market place is a great publication and a hobby standard.  Sure they sell things but they also have a large number of knowledge based tools that can help with your restoration efforts.
Also “Automobile” magazine has a great article on the Honda 600 this month (June 2013), check it out in their collectable classic article.   And don’t forget to look at page 16 with a nice section on “THE BEST CAR MOVIES aren’t about cars”
Bill
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