Red Honda N600 roars

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notrace07
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:02 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by notrace07 »

It took me a couple of days but it was during the week and it just sat while I was at work.  If you have a pressure washer (not heavy duty type) that helped in-between shaking the Apple Cider Vinegar around. I needed to do it about 3 times to get mine clean.
 Kurt
On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "bobs600honda" wrote:
On my way to the store to get some apple cider vinegar!
How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
Also, I have read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the tank and start the process!
Thanks for any info.
Bob
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@... wrote:
> Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly. Total cost is about $75.
> Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> Kurt
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > What did you use to clean tank?
> > Herb
> > From: Mark P Hatten
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Red Honda N600 roars
> > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor, new points, new oil, new tires, new plates, and more, more, more. You'd think I'd get tired of doing this stuff ! rev it up, let it rip !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=320NOAxwATE
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
www.mphspecialties.com
Mark P Hatten
Posts: 263
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:55 am

Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Mark P Hatten »

Yes. it is a great idea to let it sit for a week. Slosh it/ Shake it, every day. I like chain the best, screws can get stuck and cause problems later. Chain is just one piece so you know when it 's out it's out.  Heavy Duty tow chain two feet long it what I use.
Mark
www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: notrace07@...
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 09:26:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red Honda N600 roars
It took me a couple of days but it was during the week and it just sat while I was at work.  If you have a pressure washer (not heavy duty type) that helped in-between shaking the Apple Cider Vinegar around. I needed to do it about 3 times to get mine clean.
 Kurt
On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "bobs600honda" wrote:
On my way to the store to get some apple cider vinegar!
How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
Also, I have read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the tank and start the process!
Thanks for any info.
Bob
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@... wrote:
> Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly. Total cost is about $75.
> Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> Kurt
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > What did you use to clean tank?
> > Herb
> > From: Mark P Hatten
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Red Honda N600 roars
> > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor, new points, new oil, new tires, new plates, and more, more, more. You'd think I'd get tired of doing this stuff ! rev it up, let it rip !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=320NOAxwATE
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
www.mphspecialties.com
bobs600honda
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:17 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by bobs600honda »

Ok - pulled the tank this afternoon! All went well, and thanks to the comments of the group, I had a clear set of steps to follow. No problems really, only took about an hour (I work slow!).
Now for some silly questions on the vinegar soaking....
There didn't appear to be a lot of rust, but plenty of 'crud'.
I put in three gallons along with the 2 ft of chain and sloshed it around.
How concerned should I be about removing all rust? That is, if I want to soak the entire interior of the tank, do I seal the filler tube opening and gas level float opening, fuel outlet to pump, etc. and turn the tank 'upside down"?
And, should I keep the tank (with vinegar) in the garage (which has a gas fired water heater) or put the tank outside (in the sun or the shade)?
Thanks for any thoughts.
Bob
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "bobs600honda" wrote:
> On my way to the store to get some apple cider vinegar!
> How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
> Also, I have read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
> I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the tank and start the process!
> Thanks for any info.
> Bob
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@ wrote:
> > Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly. Total cost is about $75.
> > Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> > Kurt
> > On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > > What did you use to clean tank?
> > > Herb
> > > From: Mark P Hatten
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Red Honda N600 roars
> > > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor, new points, new oil, new tires, new plates, and more, more, more. You'd think I'd get tired of doing this stuff ! rev it up, let it rip !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=320NOAxwATE
> > > Mark
> > > Portland Or.
> > > www.mphspecialties.com
Bill
Posts: 198
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:34 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Bill »

Hi Bob;
It sounds like you are having fun.  The real problem with rust in a gas tank is the pockets of what is known as "dust rust".
 It's in pockets anywhere in the gas tank and the chain is supposed to be used to pop them.  Then using any type of etch (you chose vinegar) to clean up the pockets.  I like to use steel ball bearings 3/4 in or larger and along with the chain shake the tank for a while.  20 minutes or so.  Then use the etch that comes with the tank sealer kit sold by Hirsch Auto Supply  and follow their instructions.  And yes, seal up the filler opening and stick a long wire down the pickup tube.  When it says to rinse the etch out, rinse it twice to make sure it is all out and allow it to dry.  Remember, prep is everything.
Bill
notrace07
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:02 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by notrace07 »

Tape up the holes and put it out side in the sun, hot vinegar is a good stinky thing. Slouch and flip every few hours.
Have fun  Kurt
On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "bobs600honda" wrote:
Ok - pulled the tank this afternoon! All went well, and thanks to the comments of the group, I had a clear set of steps to follow. No problems really, only took about an hour (I work slow!).
Now for some silly questions on the vinegar soaking....
There didn't appear to be a lot of rust, but plenty of 'crud'.
I put in three gallons along with the 2 ft of chain and sloshed it around.
How concerned should I be about removing all rust? That is, if I want to soak the entire interior of the tank, do I seal the filler tube opening and gas level float opening, fuel outlet to pump, etc. and turn the tank 'upside down"?
And, should I keep the tank (with vinegar) in the garage (which has a gas fired water heater) or put the tank outside (in the sun or the shade)?
Thanks for any thoughts.
Bob
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "bobs600honda" wrote:
> On my way to the store to get some apple cider vinegar!
> How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
> Also, I have read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
> I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the tank and start the process!
> Thanks for any info.
> Bob
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, notrace07@ wrote:
> > Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly. Total cost is about $75.
> > Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> > Kurt
> > On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > > What did you use to clean tank?
> > > Herb
> > > From: Mark P Hatten
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Red Honda N600 roars
> > > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor, new points, new oil, new tires, new plates, and more, more, more. You'd think I'd get tired of doing this stuff ! rev it up, let it rip !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=320NOAxwATE
> > > Mark
> > > Portland Or.
www.mphspecialties.com
Robert James
Posts: 36
Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:43 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Robert James »

Thanks bill.
Should�I pour some vinegar out into another container so it's not so heavy! �Kinda hard to shake with 5 gallons of vinegar in the tank.
As for sealing openings, duct tape?
I hope to save the meter gasket as it is in good condition.
Bob
On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> �
> Hi Bob;
> �
> It sounds like you are having fun.� The real problem with
> rust in a gas tank is the pockets of what is known as "dust rust".� > �It's in pockets anywhere in the gas tank and the chain is supposed to be > used to pop them.� Then using any type of etch (you�chose vinegar) to > clean up the pockets.��I like to use steel ball bearings 3/4 in or > larger and along with the chain�shake the tank for a while.� 20 > minutes or so.� Then use the etch that comes with the tank sealer kit sold > by Hirsch Auto Supply �and follow their instructions.� And yes, seal > up the filler opening and stick a long wire down the pickup tube.� When it > says to rinse the etch out, rinse it twice to make sure it is all out and allow > it to dry.� Remember, prep is everything.�
> �
> Bill
> �
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf Of
> bobs600honda
> Sent:
> Sunday, June 09, 2013 4:50 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red
> Honda N600 roars
> �
> Ok - pulled the tank this afternoon! All went well, and thanks to the > comments of the group, I had a clear set of steps to follow. No problems really, > only took about an hour (I work slow!).
> Now for some silly questions on
> the vinegar soaking....
> There didn't appear to be a lot of rust, but
> plenty of 'crud'.
> I put in three gallons along with the 2 ft of chain and
> sloshed it around.
> How concerned should I be about removing all rust?
> That is, if I want to soak the entire interior of the tank, do I seal the filler > tube opening and gas level float opening, fuel outlet to pump, etc. and turn the > tank 'upside down"?
> And, should I keep the tank (with vinegar) in the
> garage (which has a gas fired water heater) or put the tank outside (in the sun > or the shade)?
> Thanks for any thoughts.
> Bob
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "bobs600honda" wrote:
> > On my way to the
> store to get some apple cider vinegar!
> > How long did you keep
> the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
> > Also, I have
> read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh > them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like > that?
> > I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to > pull the tank and start the process!
> > Thanks for any
> info.
> > Bob
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> notrace07@ wrote:
> > > Apple cider vinegar works and is
> cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I > would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the > stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly. Total cost > is about $75.
> > > Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to
> your door
> > > Kurt
> > On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy > wrote:
> > > > What did you use to clean tank?
> > > > Herb
> > > > From:
> Mark P Hatten
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent:
> Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> Red Honda N600 roars
> After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are > rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor, new points, new oil, > new tires, new plates, and more, more, more. You'd think I'd get tired of doing > this stuff ! rev it up, let it rip !
> Red Honda N 600 roll out
> > > > Mark
> > > > Portland Or.
> www.mphspecialties.com
Bill
Posts: 198
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:34 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Bill »

Hi Bob;
Shake the chain in the tank without the cleaner.  Then pour it in and slosh it around to clean everything up.
Check the inside and see if it looks clean.  You may have to do this a couple of times to make sure all the rust is out.  Then check the outside to see if there is an leakage.  Often the rust will make your tank have small rust holes which will open up once the rust is removed.   The sealer should plug any of these up.  But here again, follow the directions, you may have to seal the tank a couple of times.
Bill
Robert James
Posts: 36
Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:43 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Robert James »

Okay. �I let it soak all night. �Will dump out vinegar and follow your directions. �Looks like today is tank day - all day! �
I have not yet seen what the sealer looks like and how thick it is ( thick like molasses or thin like water ) but I imagine I put some sealer in the intake tube . �Any chance the sealer will clog it up? ��
I realize these may be silly questions, but for my 'first tank', I want to get it right!
Bob
On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> �
> Hi Bob;
> �
> ���
> Shake the chain in the tank without the
> cleaner.� Then pour it in and slosh it around to clean everything up.� > Check the inside and see if it looks clean.� You may have to do this a > couple of times to make sure all the rust is out.� Then check the outside > to see if there is an leakage.� Often the rust will make your tank have > small rust holes�which will open up�once the rust is > removed.�� The sealer should plug any of these up.� But here > again, follow the directions, you may have to seal the tank a couple of times.
> �
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf Of
> Robert
> James
> Sent:
> Sunday, June 09, 2013 6:13 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re:
> Red Honda N600 roars
> �
> Thanks bill.
> Should�I pour some vinegar out into another container so it's not so > heavy! �Kinda hard to shake with 5 gallons of vinegar in the tank.
> As for sealing openings, duct tape?
> I hope to save the meter gasket as it is in good condition.
> Bob
> On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> > �
> > Hi
> > Bob;
> > �
> > It sounds like
> > you are having fun.� The real problem with rust in a gas tank is the > > pockets of what is known as "dust rust".� �It's in pockets anywhere > > in the gas tank and the chain is supposed to be used to pop them.� Then > > using any type of etch (you�chose vinegar) to clean up the > > pockets.��I like to use steel ball bearings 3/4 in or larger and > > along with the chain�shake the tank for a while.� 20 minutes or > > so.� Then use the etch that comes with the tank sealer kit sold by Hirsch > > Auto Supply �and follow their instructions.� And yes, seal up the > > filler opening and stick a long wire down the pickup tube.� When it says > > to rinse the etch out, rinse it twice to make sure it is all out and allow it > > to dry.� Remember, prep is everything.�
> > �
> > Bill
> > �
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of
> > bobs600honda
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, June 09, 2013 4:50 PM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red Honda N600 roars
> > �
> > Ok - pulled the tank this afternoon! All went well, and thanks to the > > comments of the group, I had a clear set of steps to follow. No problems > > really, only took about an hour (I work slow!).
> > Now for some silly
> > questions on the vinegar soaking....
> > There didn't appear to be a lot of
> > rust, but plenty of 'crud'.
> > I put in three gallons along with the 2 ft
> > of chain and sloshed it around.
> > How concerned should I be about
> > removing all rust? That is, if I want to soak the entire interior of the tank, > > do I seal the filler tube opening and gas level float opening, fuel outlet to > > pump, etc. and turn the tank 'upside down"?
> > And, should I keep the tank
> > (with vinegar) in the garage (which has a gas fired water heater) or put the > > tank outside (in the sun or the shade)?
> > Thanks for any
> > thoughts.
> > Bob
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , "bobs600honda"
> > wrote:
> > > On my way to the store to get
> > some apple cider vinegar!
> > > How long did you keep the vinegar
> > in the tank (several days / hours )?
> > > Also, I have read that
> > some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them > > around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
> > > I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the > > tank and start the process!
> > > Thanks for any info.
> > > Bob
> > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , notrace07@ wrote:
> > > > Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several > > gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch > > motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush > > the steps or the sealer will not stick properly. Total cost is about $75.
> > > > Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> > > > Kurt
> > > > On
> > Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > > > > What did you use to clean tank?
> > > > > Herb
> > > > > From: Mark P
> > Hatten
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent:
> > Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners]
> > Red Honda N600 roars
> > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are > > rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor,
Eric Geiger
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Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Eric Geiger »

Take a coat hanger and push it through the intake tube.  It'll pop any clogs before the sealer sets. Or compressed air.
Eric J. Geiger
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On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:30 AM, "Robert James" wrote:
Okay.  I let it soak all night.  Will dump out vinegar and follow your directions.  Looks like today is tank day - all day!
I have not yet seen what the sealer looks like and how thick it is ( thick like molasses or thin like water ) but I imagine I put some sealer in the intake tube .  Any chance the sealer will clog it up?
I realize these may be silly questions, but for my 'first tank', I want to get it right!
Bob
On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> Hi Bob;
> Shake the chain in the tank without the cleaner.  Then pour it in and slosh it around to clean everything up.  Check the inside and see if it looks clean.  You may have to do this a couple > of times to make sure all the rust is out.  Then check the outside to see if there is an leakage.  Often the rust will make your tank have small rust holes which will open up once the rust is removed.   The sealer should plug any of these up.  But here again, > follow the directions, you may have to seal the tank a couple of times.
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf Of
> Robert James
> Sent:
> Sunday, June 09, 2013 6:13 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red Honda N600 roars
> Thanks bill.
> Should I pour some vinegar out into another container so it's not so heavy!  Kinda hard to shake with 5 gallons of vinegar in the tank.
> As for sealing openings, duct tape?
> I hope to save the meter gasket as it is in good condition.
> Bob
> On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> > Hi Bob;
> > It sounds like you are having fun.  The real problem with rust in a gas tank is the pockets of what is known as "dust rust".   It's in pockets anywhere in the gas tank and the chain is supposed > > to be used to pop them.  Then using any type of etch (you chose vinegar) to clean up the pockets.  I like to use steel ball bearings 3/4 in or larger and along with the chain shake the tank for a while.  20 minutes or so.  Then use the etch that comes with > > the tank sealer kit sold by Hirsch Auto Supply  and follow their instructions.  And yes, seal up the filler opening and stick a long wire down the pickup tube.  When it says to rinse the etch out, rinse it twice to make sure it is all out and allow it to dry.
> > Remember, prep is everything.
> > Bill
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of
> > bobs600honda
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, June 09, 2013 4:50 PM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red Honda N600 roars
> > Ok - pulled the tank this afternoon! All went well, and thanks to the comments of the group, I had a clear set of steps to follow. No problems really, only took about an hour (I work slow!).
> > Now for some silly questions on the vinegar soaking....
> > There didn't appear to be a lot of rust, but plenty of 'crud'.
> > I put in three gallons along with the 2 ft of chain and sloshed it around.
> > How concerned should I be about removing all rust? That is, if I want to soak the entire interior of the tank, do I seal the filler tube opening and gas level float opening, fuel outlet to pump, etc. and turn the tank 'upside down"?
> > And, should I keep the tank (with vinegar) in the garage (which has a gas fired water heater) or put the tank outside (in the sun or the shade)?
> > Thanks for any thoughts.
> > Bob
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , "bobs600honda" wrote:
> > > On my way to the store to get some apple cider vinegar!
> > > How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
> > > Also, I have read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
> > > I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the tank and start the process!
> > > Thanks for any info.
> > > Bob
> > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , notrace07@ wrote:
> > > > Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly.
> > Total cost is about $75.
> > > > Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> > > > Kurt
> > > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > > > > What did you use to clean tank?
> > > > > Herb
> > > > > From: Mark P Hatten
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Red Honda N600 roars
> > > > > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor,
Robert James
Posts: 36
Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:43 am

Re: Red Honda N600 roars

Post by Robert James »

Very good idea.
About how long before sealer sets - 10 min / 5 min ?
Bob
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Eric Geiger

> Take a coat hanger and push it through the intake tube. �It'll pop any clogs before the sealer sets. Or compressed air.�
> Eric J. Geiger
> ---------------------------------------
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> mobile
> egeiger@...
> www.prgnocturne.com
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:30 AM, "Robert James" rjamesblues@...
> > wrote:
> > �
> > Okay. �I let it soak all night. �Will dump out vinegar and follow your directions. �Looks like today is tank day - all day! �
> > I have not yet seen what the sealer looks like and how thick it is ( thick like molasses or thin like water ) but I imagine I put some sealer in the intake tube . �Any chance the sealer will clog it up? ��
> > I realize these may be silly questions, but for my 'first tank', I want to get it right!
> > Bob
> > On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> > > �
> > > Hi Bob;
> > > �
> > > ���
> > > Shake the chain in the tank without the cleaner.� Then pour it in and slosh it around to clean everything up.� Check the inside and see if it looks clean.� You may have to do this a couple > > > of times to make sure all the rust is out.� Then check the outside to see if there is an leakage.� Often the rust will make your tank have small rust holes�which will open up�once the rust is removed.�� The sealer should plug any of these up.� But here again, > > > follow the directions, you may have to seal the tank a couple of times.
> > > �
> > > Bill
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > ]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Robert James
> > > Sent:
> > > Sunday, June 09, 2013 6:13 PM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red Honda N600 roars
> > > �
> > > Thanks bill.
> > > Should�I pour some vinegar out into another container so it's not so heavy! �Kinda hard to shake with 5 gallons of vinegar in the tank.
> > > As for sealing openings, duct tape?
> > > I hope to save the meter gasket as it is in good condition.
> > > Bob
> > > On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Bill wrote:
> > > > �
> > > > Hi Bob;
> > > > �
> > > > It sounds like you are having fun.� The real problem with rust in a gas tank is the pockets of what is known as "dust rust".� �It's in pockets anywhere in the gas tank and the chain is supposed > > > > to be used to pop them.� Then using any type of etch (you�chose vinegar) to clean up the pockets.��I like to use steel ball bearings 3/4 in or larger and along with the chain�shake the tank for a while.� 20 minutes or so.� Then use the etch that comes with > > > > the tank sealer kit sold by Hirsch Auto Supply �and follow their instructions.� And yes, seal up the filler opening and stick a long wire down the pickup tube.� When it says to rinse the etch out, rinse it twice to make sure it is all out and allow it to dry.� > > > > Remember, prep is everything.�
> > > > �
> > > > Bill
> > > > �
> > > > From:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > ]
> > > > On Behalf Of
> > > > bobs600honda
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Sunday, June 09, 2013 4:50 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject:
> > > > [anzhonda600owners] Re: Red Honda N600 roars
> > > > �
> > > > Ok - pulled the tank this afternoon! All went well, and thanks to the comments of the group, I had a clear set of steps to follow. No problems really, only took about an hour (I work slow!).
> > > > Now for some silly questions on the vinegar soaking....
> > > > There didn't appear to be a lot of rust, but plenty of 'crud'.
> > > > I put in three gallons along with the 2 ft of chain and sloshed it around.
> > > > How concerned should I be about removing all rust? That is, if I want to soak the entire interior of the tank, do I seal the filler tube opening and gas level float opening, fuel outlet to pump, etc. and turn the tank 'upside down"?
> > > > And, should I keep the tank (with vinegar) in the garage (which has a gas fired water heater) or put the tank outside (in the sun or the shade)?
> > > > Thanks for any thoughts.
> > > > Bob
> > > > --- In
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , "bobs600honda" wrote:
> > > > > On my way to the store to get some apple cider vinegar!
> > > > > How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank (several days / hours )?
> > > > > Also, I have read that some put drywall screws (or ball bearings / pieces of chain) and slosh them around to break up pockets of rust. Did you try something like that?
> > > > > I got the tank kit in the mail last week, so just need to pull the tank and start the process!
> > > > > Thanks for any info.
> > > > > Bob
> > > > > --- In
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , notrace07@ wrote:
> > > > > > Apple cider vinegar works and is cheap, it will take several gallons. After you get it to where your happy then I would use Bill Hirsch motorcycle tank repair kit. I've had good luck with the stuff but don't rush the steps or the sealer will not stick properly.
> > > > Total cost is about $75.
> > > > > > Bill Hirsch tank kit is $50 including shipping to your door
> > > > > > Kurt
> > > > > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Herbert McCoy wrote:
> > > > > > > What did you use to clean tank?
> > > > > > > Herb
> > > > > > > From: Mark P Hatten
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:35 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Red Honda N600 roars
> > > > > > > After sitting unused since 1993 this 1970 Honda n600 comes alive. Brakes are rebuilt, gas tank cleaned, new clutch, rebuilt carburetor,
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