How does this work?

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Don B Laughton
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Re: How does this work?

Post by Don B Laughton »

The rim size should stamped on the rim. If not, probably 4 1/2J.
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On Jun 27, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Robert Smith
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There are very few factory-made landsailers and none that I know of that use 10 inch car wheels or 10 inch scooter wheels.That reminds me; what is the rim width of a Z600 wheel.  I would need that dimension to choose an appropriate scooter tire.  I don't know if this message is going to one person or the whole group.  I tried "reply on web page" but I got the error message saying I need to be a member of the group.  AFAIK I am a new member.  I am logged in to Yahoo.  Do I need to do something else?  How does this work?
Chuck Dean
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Re: How does this work?

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Your messages are going to the whole group.
Chuck  (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Jun 27, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Robert Smith
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[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
There are very few factory-made landsailers and none that I know of that use 10 inch car wheels or 10 inch scooter wheels.That reminds me; what is the rim width of a Z600 wheel.  I would need that dimension to choose an appropriate scooter tire.  I don't know if this message is going to one person or the whole group.  I tried "reply on web page" but I got the error message saying I need to be a member of the group.  AFAIK I am a new member.  I am logged in to Yahoo.  Do I need to do something else?  How does this work?
kingtrans2003
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Re: How does this work?

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look for a safety bead on the wheel inside lip where the tire bead rides. keeps the tire from falling off the wheel when it's deflated.
wheels with a safety bead can run tubeless.
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:45:57 +0000 (UTC) "Robert Smith emod22@...
[2cylinderhondas]" I recently joined the group and I am not sure how messaging works.
> I have a question so I am just going to ask it and see what happens.  I > built a landsailer and it uses 145R10 tires.  Originally, it used 8 inch > bias-ply boat trailer tires but I wanted to use radials.  I bought a pair > of wheels from a Z600, cut the center out, and welded the centers from boat > trailer wheels to the Z600 rims to create wheels with the diameter, offset, > and lug bolt pattern that I need.  The tires are about 12 years old now > and hard and slippery.  New tires in that size are very expensive so I > wonder if 10 inch scooter tires will work since they cost about 1/2 as > much.   The landsailer only weighs about 180 pounds so the scooter > tires will not be overloaded.
> My main concern is the bead seat area;
> is it the same on the scooter wheel as it is on the car
> wheel?
>  Google and I have not been able to find the
> answer.  I want to stay with tubeless tires to keep rolling resistance > low but I don't want to peel a tire off at high speed because of a poor seal > at the bead.  The faster a landsailer  goes, the higher the side > load on the tire.   A few years ago, I saw a listing on the > Barrett-Jackson auction website that showed many high-resolution pictures of a > restored Z600 with scooter tires on the original wheels, so I know they will > fit and hold air and they will support the car while it sits for > pictures..  I don't know what would happen when the car is driven or, > more to the point, if they would be safe on my landsailer.  I figure this > is the place to ask if anybody has used scooter tires on their cars and lived > to tell the tale.
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 07:34:23 AM CDT, dusty path
> dustyspath@... [2cylinderhondas] > wrote:
> scooter tires will not  work  why buy scooter  tires im at > a  loss u can buy 4  tires for 288 free shipping  on ebay > or u can buy the tires   here > Camac | 145R10 >        I have  7,000 > miles on mine  there still  working  good
> Camac
> | 145R10
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> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:10:53 PM MDT, z600miles@...
> [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> Works for me: Type in scooter tires but unfortunately it splits up the > question and I get lots of responses for scooter tubes. Here's your > results:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/2cy ... er%20tires
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Andy Hale
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Re: How does this work?

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Just brought 145/80 SR 10 Falkens for my Z. Will be running with inner tubes.
craft59
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Re: How does this work?

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Should not run a tube in a radial tire
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-------- Original message -------- From: "andy.hale@... [2cylinderhondas]" Date: 7/23/19 10:53 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: How does this work?
Just brought 145/80 SR 10 Falkens for my Z. Will be running with inner tubes.
Chuck Dean
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Re: How does this work?

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I personally do not know others driving habits, but as far as my Honda 600 Coupe it only gets driven about 250 miles a year and always below 50 MPH. I doubt using a tube would have any ill effects.
Chuck  (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:32 AM, craft59
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Should not run a tube in a radial tire
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rstevens19
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Re: How does this work?

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Interesting advice as all  AZ600s came with radial tires and radial tubes.  Sedans had an optional radial tire and also had radial tubes. What is your rational for that advice?
Just curious,
RS
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Should not run a tube in a radial tire
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Just brought 145/80 SR 10 Falkens for my Z. Will be running with inner tubes.
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dusty path
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it  will  it dont matter  how fast u  go  do not  do that I  know  it blow  up on u  it did on me  do not  use  tubes  in  those tires   u will be sorry and  it will  not  balance  well  with  the  tubs  those tubes  was for  bias ply  tires  not radial  tire   I been  running  1000,00  miles  on tubeless and I don't  drive  slow i drive 65 mph   never had  issue  I  drive  lots highways  in AZ  I 40  to kingman   and Lake Havasu city AZ
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019, 10:57:35 AM MDT, Chuck Dean cadean329@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
I personally do not know others driving habits, but as far as my Honda 600 Coupe it only gets driven about 250 miles a year and always below 50 MPH. I doubt using a tube would have any ill effects.
Chuck  (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400 On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:32 AM, craft59 craft59@...
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Should not run a tube in a radial tire
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Love
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Re: How does this work?

Post by Love »

IIRC radial tires run at a higher temperature.  Therefore, the tubes have to be radial rated (yes, they are different).
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On Tuesday, July 23, 2019, 10:10:11 AM PDT, rstevens19@... [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Interesting advice as all  AZ600s came with radial tires and radial tubes.  Sedans had an optional radial tire and also had radial tubes. What is your rational for that advice?
Just curious,
RS
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Should not run a tube in a radial tire
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Just brought 145/80 SR 10 Falkens for my Z. Will be running with inner tubes.
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rstevens19
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Re: How does this work?

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See attached!!  In 1972 I bought a new AZ600 which had Bridgestone radials with radial tubes which I wore out and replaced with Michelin radials with radial tubes and traded it in with 96,000 miles on it in 1978. I drove hard and fast for all those miles with no tire problems ever. The attached photo are of the tubes I put in my restored AZ600 Camac radial tires, literally today all five of them.
If you want safe motoring, take care of tire pressure, dont worry about the tubes.
RS
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: How does this work?
IIRC radial tires run at a higher temperature.
Therefore, the tubes have to be radial rated (yes, they are different).
Bruce D.
Grass Valley, CA
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019, 10:10:11 AM PDT, rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Interesting advice as all  AZ600s came with radial tires and radial tubes.  Sedans had an optional radial tire and also had radial tubes. What is your rational for that advice?
Just curious,
RS
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Should not run a tube in a radial tire
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Just brought 145/80 SR 10 Falkens for my Z. Will be running with inner tubes.
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