1971 z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????

[martykart]

the easiest thing is for all these people to learn to drive a stick. or get a real car and play with the hondas on the weekend.
marty

[PatrickJHamilton]

Hi Bill,
Netherlands and Holland are the same countries.
Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking from Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too. Klaus Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
Are there mor Hondamatic in europe?
Jochen from Germany

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> william
> colford
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> anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:35
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> Hi Marty;
>     The Hondamatic 600 had two versions, the
> first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough double wire shifting set > up which would make it costly to adapt.  Other issues would > be the brake peddle placement.  The one I have originally had > engine number 500035.  The engine in it when I found it had number > 5000491.   The engine mounts are different, shifting is > different and there is a cable that came from the Carb town to the > transmission which governed the speed through shifts.  Exhaust is > different.   Other than that it would be a snap.  There is a > Hondamatic 600 in New Zealand for sale, and I have listed two in > England, two in the Netherlands, one in Holland.  The real issue is as > Miles has already said,  they have to start moving long before the light > turns green or they would never make it across the road.  Engine parts > are another problem as well as some of the interior parts.  Some of > the Emblems have still not been located.
> Bill
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> > From:
> > martykart@...
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:31
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us and there are a
> > few others on here too i think. idont think youll find an auto however if > > they made one for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > sure.
> > marty
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[shawnn4]

hi you all
just some explanation about the hondamatic.
i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a year ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
i believe there is a foto in the fotoalbum
there where 6 of them officialy sold in holland/nederland and
whe have 2 of them now the other one has been sold to claus mann.
i know somebody who has the engine of the 4 th one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
the are verry rare here in europe also, the most of them are sold in france where you still can find some good examples.
the big problem is when you need parts for them because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from honda.
but the are verry strong and mostly brake down on the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
technicly it is totaly different from the civic hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 gears and he civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 steps.
ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold whit hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
you could convert a Z coup to a hondamatic but you would need to mount the total front power train to the car because the subframe and all are different, and you need to fit the shift cabels,etc also.
when people need parts for N hondamatic
the can contact me, i have remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
greatings from holland/nederland
h.molenaar

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Jochen Pokies
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:36
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> Hi Bill,
> Netherlands and Holland are the same countries.
> Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking from Holland, you > mean the.Netherlands.
> There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too. Klaus Mann
> has the car, but he has no internet account.
> Are there mor Hondamatic in europe?
> Jochen from Germany
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > william colford
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > ;
> > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:35
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > Hi Marty;
> >     The Hondamatic 600 had two versions,
> > the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough double wire > > shifting set up which would make it costly to adapt.  Other > > issues would be the brake peddle placement.  The one I > > have originally had engine number 500035.  The engine in it when I > > found it had number 5000491.   The engine mounts are > > different, shifting is different and there is a cable that came from the > > Carb town to the transmission which governed the speed through shifts.
> > Exhaust is different.   Other than that it would be a snap.
> > There is a Hondamatic 600 in New Zealand for sale, and I have > > listed two in England, two in the Netherlands, one in Holland.  The > > real issue is as Miles has already said,  they have to start moving > > long before the light turns green or they would never make it across the > > road.  Engine parts are another problem as well as some of the interior > > parts.  Some of the Emblems have still not been > > located.
> > Bill
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > martykart@...
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:31
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us and there are a > > > few others on here too i think. idont think youll find an auto however if > > > they made one for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > sure.
> > > marty
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[dealadayray]

Thanks Harry;
    Your Coupe is on the site, but I don't remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would like to put it up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on your cars?
Bill

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> HARRY
> MOLENAAR
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:15
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> hi you all
> just some explanation about the
> hondamatic.
> i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a year
> ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> i believe there is a foto in the
> fotoalbum
> there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> holland/nederland and
> whe have 2 of them now the other one has been
> sold to claus mann.
> i know somebody who has the engine of the 4 th
> one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> the are verry rare here in europe also, the most
> of them are sold in france where you still can find some good > examples.
> the big problem is when you need parts for them
> because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from honda.
> but the are verry strong and mostly brake down on
> the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> technicly it is totaly different from the civic
> hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 gears and he > civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 steps.
> ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold whit
> hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> you could convert a Z coup to a hondamatic but
> you would need to mount the total front power train to the car because > the subframe and all are different, and you need to fit the shift cabels,etc > also.
> when people need parts for N
> hondamatic
> the can contact me, i have
> remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> greatings from holland/nederland
> h.molenaar
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Jochen
> > Pokies
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:36
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > Hi Bill,
> > Netherlands and Holland are the same countries.
> > Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking from Holland, you > > mean the.Netherlands.
> > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too. Klaus
> > Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > europe?
> > Jochen from Germany
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > william colford
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > ;
> > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:35
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > Hi Marty;
> > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two versions,
> > > the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough double wire > > > shifting set up which would make it costly to adapt.  Other > > > issues would be the brake peddle placement.  The one I > > > have originally had engine number 500035.  The engine in it when > > > I found it had number 5000491.   The engine mounts are > > > different, shifting is different and there is a cable that came from the > > > Carb town to the transmission which governed the speed through > > > shifts.  Exhaust is different.   Other than that it would > > > be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 in New Zealand for sale, > > > and I have listed two in England, two in the Netherlands, one in > > > Holland.  The real issue is as Miles has already said,  they > > > have to start moving long before the light turns green or they would never > > > make it across the road.  Engine parts are another problem as well as > > > some of the interior parts.  Some of the Emblems have still > > > not been located.
> > > Bill
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > martykart@...
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003
> > > > 8:31 AM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us and there are > > > > a few others on here too i think. idont think youll find an auto however > > > > if they made one for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > > sure.
> > > > marty
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group,
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[dealadayray]

Now Now Marty;
    Remember, he who has the most toys wins!
    The Automatic Honda 600 is a very hard to find vehicle anywhere.  With some research I have found that there were maybe 2500 or so made.  Of these maybe 20 are left and only a hand full are running.  Honda of America has one in running condition, Harry from the Netherlands has one and sold another, which are running examples.  The two in England are not running.  There are two in Australia that may be running but I have not heard from them in some time and I believe one was a 360.  I heard of a Hondamatic in upper New York by Canada but it turned out to be a Civic or at least the gentlemen I spoke to said it was.
    What this site and we as a group are about is to preserve the Honda 600 two cylinder car.  Sedan, Coupe - standard or automatic, they are all included.  To assist each other in keeping them running is a real chore, and I am afraid Honda is not getting involved.  So we speak of what makes them go faster and who has or where are the rest of the parts.  And stating that a Hondamatic is a lesser vehicle than a Honda standard is poor taste.  Who brags about doing the quarter mile in 19.6 seconds.  When you're driving a Honda 600 you do and be proud of it too.
    So enough of this get a real car stuff and lets be civil and be together on keeping them all on the road.
Bill

[Luca]

prova

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> william
> colford
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Friday, April 18, 2003 4:08
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> Thanks Harry;
>     Your Coupe is on the site, but I don't
> remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would like to put it > up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on your cars?
> Bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > HARRY
> > MOLENAAR
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:15
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > hi you all
> > just some explanation about the
> > hondamatic.
> > i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a year
> > ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> > i believe there is a foto in the
> > fotoalbum
> > there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> > holland/nederland and
> > whe have 2 of them now the other one has been
> > sold to claus mann.
> > i know somebody who has the engine of the 4 th
> > one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> > the are verry rare here in europe also, the
> > most of them are sold in france where you still can find some good > > examples.
> > the big problem is when you need parts for them
> > because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from honda.
> > but the are verry strong and mostly brake down
> > on the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> > technicly it is totaly different from the civic
> > hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 gears and he > > civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 steps.
> > ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold whit
> > hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> > you could convert a Z coup to a hondamatic but
> > you would need to mount the total front power train to the car because > > the subframe and all are different, and you need to fit the shift cabels,etc > > also.
> > when people need parts for N
> > hondamatic
> > the can contact me, i have
> > remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> > greatings from holland/nederland
> > h.molenaar
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Jochen
> > > Pokies
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:36
> > > PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > Hi Bill,
> > > Netherlands and Holland are the same
> > > countries. Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking from > > > Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
> > > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too. Klaus
> > > Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > > europe?
> > > Jochen from Germany
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > william colford
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > ;
> > > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:35
> > > > AM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > Hi Marty;
> > > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two
> > > > versions, the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough > > > > double wire shifting set up which would make it costly to adapt.
> > > > Other issues would be the brake peddle placement.  The > > > > one I have originally had engine number 500035.  The engine in > > > > it when I found it had number 5000491.   The engine > > > > mounts are different, shifting is different and there is a cable that > > > > came from the Carb town to the transmission which governed the speed > > > > through shifts.  Exhaust is different.   Other than that > > > > it would be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 in New Zealand > > > > for sale, and I have listed two in England, two in the Netherlands, > > > > one in Holland.  The real issue is as Miles has already said, > > > > they have to start moving long before the light turns green or they > > > > would never make it across the road.  Engine parts are another > > > > problem as well as some of the interior parts.  Some of > > > > the Emblems have still not been located.
> > > > Bill
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > martykart@...
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003
> > > > > 8:31 AM
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us and
> > > > > there are a few others on here too i think. idont think youll find an > > > > > auto however if they made one for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > > > sure.
> > > > > marty
> > > > > To unsubscribe from this group,
> > > > > send an email to:
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[dealadayray]

Hi Harry;
    Yes both your Coupe and Hondamatic are on the site.  And I switched to Netherland rather than Holland.  You should know where you live.  But can I have all your numbers?
Currently I have AXXX-XXX-XXXX (no eng. nr.) built 8-5-70 and AXXX-XXX-XXXX (no eng. nr.) built 7-6-69,
Bill

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> HARRY
> MOLENAAR
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:15
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> hi you all
> just some explanation about the
> hondamatic.
> i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a year
> ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> i believe there is a foto in the
> fotoalbum
> there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> holland/nederland and
> whe have 2 of them now the other one has been
> sold to claus mann.
> i know somebody who has the engine of the 4 th
> one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> the are verry rare here in europe also, the most
> of them are sold in france where you still can find some good > examples.
> the big problem is when you need parts for them
> because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from honda.
> but the are verry strong and mostly brake down on
> the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> technicly it is totaly different from the civic
> hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 gears and he > civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 steps.
> ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold whit
> hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> you could convert a Z coup to a hondamatic but
> you would need to mount the total front power train to the car because > the subframe and all are different, and you need to fit the shift cabels,etc > also.
> when people need parts for N
> hondamatic
> the can contact me, i have
> remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> greatings from holland/nederland
> h.molenaar
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Jochen
> > Pokies
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:36
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > Hi Bill,
> > Netherlands and Holland are the same countries.
> > Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking from Holland, you > > mean the.Netherlands.
> > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too. Klaus
> > Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > europe?
> > Jochen from Germany
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > william colford
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > ;
> > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:35
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > Hi Marty;
> > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two versions,
> > > the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough double wire > > > shifting set up which would make it costly to adapt.  Other > > > issues would be the brake peddle placement.  The one I > > > have originally had engine number 500035.  The engine in it when > > > I found it had number 5000491.   The engine mounts are > > > different, shifting is different and there is a cable that came from the > > > Carb town to the transmission which governed the speed through > > > shifts.  Exhaust is different.   Other than that it would > > > be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 in New Zealand for sale, > > > and I have listed two in England, two in the Netherlands, one in > > > Holland.  The real issue is as Miles has already said,  they > > > have to start moving long before the light turns green or they would never > > > make it across the road.  Engine parts are another problem as well as > > > some of the interior parts.  Some of the Emblems have still > > > not been located.
> > > Bill
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > martykart@...
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003
> > > > 8:31 AM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us and there are > > > > a few others on here too i think. idont think youll find an auto however > > > > if they made one for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > > sure.
> > > > marty
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group,
> > > > send an email to:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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[dealadayray]

Thanks Harry;
    Your Hondamatic is really a sharp car.  I have one of the later engines, but the one for the chassis AAXXX-XXX-XXXX Engine N600E-5000035 has the double cable shifter system.  The shift quadrant is broken, but it is for a Left had car like yours.  Only the engine numbers after 5000700 had a single cable shifter system.   Are there any of the early shift quadrants in your area?
See attached.  part #16 in the picture, part number 51201-580-684 I believe is the correct part number.
Bill

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> HARRY
> MOLENAAR
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Monday, April 28, 2003 11:19
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> bill hearby the engine numbers and the foto of
> the hondamatic
> N600E-5000987 whit chassisnumber;
> AXXX-XXX-XXXX
> spare engine; N600E-5001025
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > william colford
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Friday, April 18, 2003 4:08
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > Thanks Harry;
> >     Your Coupe is on the site, but I don't
> > remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would like to put > > it up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on your > > cars?
> > Bill
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > HARRY
> > > MOLENAAR
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:15
> > > PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > hi you all
> > > just some explanation about the
> > > hondamatic.
> > > i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a
> > > year ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> > > i believe there is a foto in the
> > > fotoalbum
> > > there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> > > holland/nederland and
> > > whe have 2 of them now the other one has been
> > > sold to claus mann.
> > > i know somebody who has the engine of the 4
> > > th one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> > > the are verry rare here in europe also, the
> > > most of them are sold in france where you still can find some good > > > examples.
> > > the big problem is when you need parts for
> > > them because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from > > > honda.
> > > but the are verry strong and mostly brake
> > > down on the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> > > technicly it is totaly different from the
> > > civic hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 gears > > > and he civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 > > > steps.
> > > ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold whit
> > > hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> > > you could convert a Z coup to a hondamatic
> > > but you would need to mount the total front power train to the car > > > because the subframe and all are different, and you need to fit the shift > > > cabels,etc also.
> > > when people need parts for N
> > > hondamatic
> > > the can contact me, i have
> > > remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> > > greatings from holland/nederland
> > > h.molenaar
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > Jochen
> > > > Pokies
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:36
> > > > PM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > Hi Bill,
> > > > Netherlands and Holland are the same
> > > > countries. Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking > > > > from Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
> > > > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too.
> > > > Klaus Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > > > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > > > europe?
> > > > Jochen from Germany
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > william colford
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > ;
> > > > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > 8:35 AM
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > Hi Marty;
> > > > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two
> > > > > versions, the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough > > > > > double wire shifting set up which would make it costly to adapt.
> > > > > Other issues would be the brake peddle placement.  The > > > > > one I have originally had engine number 500035.  The engine > > > > > in it when I found it had number 5000491.   The > > > > > engine mounts are different, shifting is different and there is a > > > > > cable that came from the Carb town to the transmission which governed > > > > > the speed through shifts.  Exhaust is different.
> > > > > Other than that it would be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 > > > > > in New Zealand for sale, and I have listed two in England, > > > > > two in the Netherlands, one in Holland.  The real issue is as > > > > > Miles has already said,  they have to start moving long before > > > > > the light turns green or they would never make it across the > > > > > road.  Engine parts are another problem as well as some of the > > > > > interior parts.  Some of the Emblems have still not > > > > > been located.
> > > > > Bill
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > martykart@...
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003
> > > > > > 8:31 AM
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us and
> > > > > > there are a few others on here too i think. idont think youll find > > > > > > an auto however if they made one for the sedan you can swap it > > > > > > easily im sure.
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[shawnn4]

bill, don' t know any early shift quadrants here in europe, but have heart of an later one in england.
have you tried peter rose in england ore wagner umhauer from the classic motors shop in portugal for those parts.
i know peter rose found syngromesh for an hondamatic for a
hondamatic driver in belgium

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> william
> colford
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:27
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> Thanks Harry;
>     Your Hondamatic is really a sharp
> car.  I have one of the later engines, but the one for the chassis > AAXXX-XXX-XXXX Engine N600E-5000035 has the double cable shifter > system.  The shift quadrant is broken, but it is for a Left had car like > yours.  Only the engine numbers after 5000700 had a single cable shifter > system.   Are there any of the early shift quadrants in your > area?
> See attached.  part #16 in the picture, part number
> 51201-580-684 I believe is the correct part number.
> Bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > HARRY
> > MOLENAAR
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Monday, April 28, 2003 11:19
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > bill hearby the engine numbers and the foto of
> > the hondamatic
> > N600E-5000987 whit chassisnumber;
> > AXXX-XXX-XXXX
> > spare engine; N600E-5001025
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > william colford
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Friday, April 18, 2003 4:08
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > Thanks Harry;
> > >     Your Coupe is on the site, but I
> > > don't remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would like > > > to put it up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on your > > > cars?
> > > Bill
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > HARRY
> > > > MOLENAAR
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:15
> > > > PM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > hi you all
> > > > just some explanation about the
> > > > hondamatic.
> > > > i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a
> > > > year ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> > > > i believe there is a foto in the
> > > > fotoalbum
> > > > there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> > > > holland/nederland and
> > > > whe have 2 of them now the other one has
> > > > been sold to claus mann.
> > > > i know somebody who has the engine of the 4
> > > > th one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> > > > the are verry rare here in europe also, the
> > > > most of them are sold in france where you still can find some good > > > > examples.
> > > > the big problem is when you need parts for
> > > > them because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from > > > > honda.
> > > > but the are verry strong and mostly brake
> > > > down on the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> > > > technicly it is totaly different from the
> > > > civic hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 > > > > gears and he civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 > > > > steps.
> > > > ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold
> > > > whit hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> > > > you could convert a Z coup to a hondamatic
> > > > but you would need to mount the total front power train to the car > > > > because the subframe and all are different, and you need to fit the > > > > shift cabels,etc also.
> > > > when people need parts for N
> > > > hondamatic
> > > > the can contact me, i
> > > > have remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> > > > greatings from
> > > > holland/nederland
> > > > h.molenaar
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > Jochen
> > > > > Pokies
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > 9:36 PM
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > Hi Bill,
> > > > > Netherlands and Holland are the same
> > > > > countries. Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking > > > > > from Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
> > > > > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too.
> > > > > Klaus Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > > > > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > > > > europe?
> > > > > Jochen from Germany
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > william colford
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > ;
> > > > > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > > 8:35 AM
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > Hi Marty;
> > > > > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two
> > > > > > versions, the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough > > > > > > double wire shifting set up which would make it costly to > > > > > > adapt.  Other issues would be the brake peddle > > > > > > placement.  The one I have originally had engine number > > > > > > 500035.  The engine in it when I found it had number > > > > > > 5000491.   The engine mounts are different, shifting > > > > > > is different and there is a cable that came from the Carb town to > > > > > > the transmission which governed the speed through shifts.
> > > > > > Exhaust is different.   Other than that it would be a > > > > > > snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 in New Zealand for sale, > > > > > > and I have listed two in England, two in the Netherlands, one > > > > > > in Holland.  The real issue is as Miles has already said, > > > > > > they have to start moving long before the light turns green or they > > > > > > would never make it across the road.  Engine parts are another > > > > > > problem as well as some of the interior parts.  Some of > > > > > > the Emblems have still not been located.
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > martykart@...
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > Wednesday, April 16,
> > > > > > > 2003 8:31 AM
> > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > yes i have a 66 convertible. in the us
> > > > > > > and there are a few others on here too i think. idont think youll > > > > > > > find an auto however if they made one for the sedan you can swap > > > > > > > it easily im sure.
> > > > > > > marty
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[dealadayray]

I have tried Peter Rose a while back, please keep your eye open.  Thanks.
Bill

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> HARRY
> MOLENAAR
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:17
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> AUTOMATIC??????????????
> bill, don' t know any early shift quadrants here
> in europe, but have heart of an later one in england.
> have you tried peter rose in england ore wagner
> umhauer from the classic motors shop in portugal for those parts.
> i know peter rose found syngromesh for an
> hondamatic for a
> hondamatic driver in belgium
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > william colford
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:27
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > Thanks Harry;
> >     Your Hondamatic is really a sharp
> > car.  I have one of the later engines, but the one for the chassis > > AAXXX-XXX-XXXX Engine N600E-5000035 has the double cable shifter > > system.  The shift quadrant is broken, but it is for a Left had car > > like yours.  Only the engine numbers after 5000700 had a single cable > > shifter system.   Are there any of the early shift quadrants in > > your area?
> > See attached.  part #16 in the picture, part number
> > 51201-580-684 I believe is the correct part number.
> > Bill
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > HARRY
> > > MOLENAAR
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday, April 28, 2003 11:19
> > > AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > bill hearby the engine numbers and the foto
> > > of the hondamatic
> > > N600E-5000987 whit chassisnumber;
> > > AXXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > spare engine; N600E-5001025
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > william colford
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Friday, April 18, 2003 4:08
> > > > AM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] z600
> > > > AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > Thanks Harry;
> > > >     Your Coupe is on the site, but I
> > > > don't remember getting a picture of your Hondamatic.  Sure would > > > > like to put it up on the site.  Also, what are the numbers on your > > > > cars?
> > > > Bill
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > HARRY
> > > > > MOLENAAR
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > 2:15 PM
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > hi you all
> > > > > just some explanation about the
> > > > > hondamatic.
> > > > > i just have rebuild a hondamatic engine a
> > > > > year ago for my fathers N600 hondamatic.
> > > > > i believe there is a foto in the
> > > > > fotoalbum
> > > > > there where 6 of them officialy sold in
> > > > > holland/nederland and
> > > > > whe have 2 of them now the other one has
> > > > > been sold to claus mann.
> > > > > i know somebody who has the engine of the
> > > > > 4 th one, and the other 2 i still haven't lokated.
> > > > > the are verry rare here in europe also,
> > > > > the most of them are sold in france where you still can find some > > > > > good examples.
> > > > > the big problem is when you need parts
> > > > > for them because most of the parts are no longer avaibel from > > > > > honda.
> > > > > but the are verry strong and mostly brake
> > > > > down on the enigine side and not on the automatic side.
> > > > > technicly it is totaly different from the
> > > > > civic hondamatic, because the N hondamatic shift by hydrolics 4 > > > > > gears and he civic hondamatic is just has a hydrolic converter whit 3 > > > > > steps.
> > > > > ther are in japan officialy Z coupe sold
> > > > > whit hondamatic but the where all 360cc engines.
> > > > > you could convert a Z coup to a
> > > > > hondamatic but you would need to mount the total front power > > > > > train to the car because the subframe and all are different, and you > > > > > need to fit the shift cabels,etc also.
> > > > > when people need parts for N
> > > > > hondamatic
> > > > > the can contact me, i
> > > > > have remade some parts that are no longer avaibel.
> > > > > greatings from
> > > > > holland/nederland
> > > > > h.molenaar
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > Jochen
> > > > > > Pokies
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > Thursday, April 17, 2003
> > > > > > 9:36 PM
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > > z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > Hi Bill,
> > > > > > Netherlands and Holland are the same
> > > > > > countries. Perfectly correct is Netherlands, but if you are spaeking > > > > > > from Holland, you mean the.Netherlands.
> > > > > > There is a HONDAMATIC in Germany, too.
> > > > > > Klaus Mann has the car, but he has no internet account.
> > > > > > Are there mor Hondamatic in
> > > > > > europe?
> > > > > > Jochen from Germany
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > william colford
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > ;
> > > > > > > anzhonda600owners-acceptsub-i=f28rYuxnrG0lq6@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > Thursday, April 17,
> > > > > > > 2003 8:35 AM
> > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > Hi Marty;
> > > > > > >     The Hondamatic 600 had two
> > > > > > > versions, the first one 5000001 through 5000700 had a really tough > > > > > > > double wire shifting set up which would make it costly to > > > > > > > adapt.  Other issues would be the brake peddle > > > > > > > placement.  The one I have originally had engine number > > > > > > > 500035.  The engine in it when I found it had number > > > > > > > 5000491.   The engine mounts are different, > > > > > > > shifting is different and there is a cable that came from the Carb > > > > > > > town to the transmission which governed the speed through > > > > > > > shifts.  Exhaust is different.   Other than that it > > > > > > > would be a snap.  There is a Hondamatic 600 in New > > > > > > > Zealand for sale, and I have listed two in England, two in > > > > > > > the Netherlands, one in Holland.  The real issue is as Miles > > > > > > > has already said,  they have to start moving long before the > > > > > > > light turns green or they would never make it across the > > > > > > > road.  Engine parts are another problem as well as some of > > > > > > > the interior parts.  Some of the Emblems have still > > > > > > > not been located.
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > martykart@...
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 16,
> > > > > > > > 2003 8:31 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > > [2cylinderhondas] z600 AUTOMATIC??????????????
> > > > > > > > yes i have a 66
> > > > > > > > convertible. in the us and there are a few others on here too i > > > > > > > > think. idont think youll find an auto however if they made one > > > > > > > > for the sedan you can swap it easily im > > > > > > > > sure.
> > > > > > > > marty
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