Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

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Mark P Hatten
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Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

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Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" snow anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We may have to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice power burnouts. What's more to love?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
Mark Portland Or.
The 2014 National Microcar Show is at www.gpnwmme.com and is sponsored by www.mphspecialties.com
Bryan O_Shaughnessy
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Post by Bryan O_Shaughnessy »

Mark:
   While I appreciate that you still have a running Honda A600 (and I don't), I can't understand your comments about traction and starting in winter weather.
   I drove my AZ600 to Chicago for eight years, commuting roughly 160 miles each day, and I never had a problem starting the motor (being air-cooled, it generated heat before I pulled into traffic!) on Chicago's sub-zero mornings and evenings.  (Yes, that's AIR temp, not wind-chill.)  You're probably aware by now that your transmission won't shift well if you drive over 2,000 miles on an oil-change.  In winter, I used to use 5W30 oil, which helped starting the motor and, of course, lubed the transmission adequately.  Now that we have synthetic oils, this might be an even better option for you.  It won't break down from heat, it stays a little looser in cold weather than conventional oil, and will probably extend the oil-change interval past 2,000 miles.
   Snows of twelve inches and more were no problem for me; judicious gear-shifting and an aggressive tire tread (sold by Michelin as "mud and snow" tread) kept me going in snow and worked well year-round.  Ice is...well, ice, and if you avoid trouble, seek the best line of traction, and use the pedals judiciously, you'll do fine on that too.   I suggest you shop for new tires if you plan to use the car safely.  If it's just a hobby, follow your conscience.  ---Bryan O
On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:21 PM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
> Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" snow anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We may have to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice power burnouts. What's more to love?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
> Mark
> Portland Or.
> The 2014 National Microcar Show is at
> www.gpnwmme.com
> and is sponsored by
> www.mphspecialties.com
TOM THIES
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

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Bryan
 as in Spokane Washington the snow is a dry snow and much easier to drive in.  I remember pushing snow with the bumper on my coupe with good winter Michelin tires.   Portland started out with dry snow as with the coast but I think it turn to a wetter type of snow.  allways good fun in the honda and front wheel drive.  I used to take mine to a large parking lot and get in second gear and hit the emergency brake and turn the wheel and hit the gas,  and around and around we go...lol
what fun.  but I also tore my car up pretty bad.  that was back in 1972
also if you have a honda I hope you get it running.
tom
> -----
> Original Message -----
> From:
> Bryan
> O'Shaughnessy
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Monday, February 10, 2014 1:33 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
> Mark:
>    While I appreciate that you still
> have
> a running Honda A600 (and I don't), I can't understand your comments about > traction and starting in winter weather.
>    I drove
> my AZ600 to Chicago for eight years, commuting
> roughly 160 miles each
> day, and I never had a problem starting the motor (being air-cooled, it > generated heat before I pulled into traffic!) on Chicago's sub-zero mornings > and evenings.  (Yes, that's AIR temp, not wind-chill.)  You're > probably aware by now that your transmission won't shift well if you drive > over 2,000 miles on an oil-change.  In winter, I used to use 5W30 oil, > which helped starting the motor and, of course, lubed the transmission > adequately.  Now that we have synthetic oils, this might be an even > better option for you.  It won't break down from heat, it stays a little > looser in cold weather than conventional oil, and will probably extend the > oil-change interval past 2,000 miles.
>    Snows of twelve
> inches and more were no problem for me; judicious gear-shifting and an > aggressive tire tread (sold by Michelin as "mud and snow" tread) kept me going > in snow and worked well year-round.  Ice is...well, ice, and if you avoid > trouble, seek the best line of traction, and use the pedals judiciously, > you'll do fine on that too.   I suggest you shop for new tires if > you plan to use the car safely.  If it's just a hobby, follow your > conscience.  ---Bryan O
> On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:21
> PM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
> > Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have > > about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda > > N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" snow > > anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We may have > > to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice power > > burnouts. What's more to love?
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
> > Mark
> > Portland Or.
> > The 2014 National Microcar Show is at
> > www.gpnwmme.com
> > and is sponsored by
> > www.mphspecialties.com
Yahoo
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Post by Yahoo »

Wow Bryan.. that's impressive. 160 miles per day x 21 work days x 8 years of commuting = 268,800 miles on that little 600 motor... did you have to rebuild it during that time period or did it run fine the entire time.. id be curious to know. im a new an600 owner  had it just a week now so im trying to gather all the info I can.  Ive been reading other posts trying to figure out the basics.. oil filter numbers etc. Sounds like itll be fun owning this new AN 600  good luck
. Rand
From:
TOM THIES To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Monday, February 10, 2014 5:47 PM Subject:
Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Bryan
 as in Spokane Washington the snow is a dry snow and much easier to drive in.  I remember pushing snow with the bumper on my coupe with good winter Michelin tires.   Portland started out with dry snow as with the coast but I think it turn to a wetter type of snow.  allways good fun in the honda and front wheel drive.  I used to take mine to a large parking lot and get in second gear and hit the emergency brake and turn the wheel and hit the gas,  and around and around we go...lol
what fun.  but I also tore my car up pretty bad.  that was back in 1972
also if you have a honda I hope you get it running.
tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Bryan O'Shaughnessy
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Monday, February 10, 2014 1:33 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
>    Mark:    While I appreciate that you still
> have
> a running Honda A600 (and I don't), I can't understand your comments about traction and starting in winter weather.      I drove my AZ600 to Chicago for eight years, commuting > roughly 160 miles each day, and I never had a problem starting the motor (being air-cooled, it generated heat before I pulled into traffic!) on Chicago's sub-zero mornings and evenings.  (Yes, that's AIR temp, not wind-chill.)  You're probably aware by now that your transmission won't shift well if you drive over 2,000 miles on an oil-change.  In winter, I used to use 5W30 oil, which helped starting the motor and, of course, lubed the transmission adequately.  Now that we have synthetic > oils, this might be an even better option for you.  It won't break down from heat, it stays a little looser in cold weather than conventional oil, and will probably extend the oil-change interval past 2,000 miles.
>    Snows of twelve inches and more were no problem for me; judicious gear-shifting and an aggressive tire tread (sold by Michelin as "mud and snow" tread) kept me going in snow and worked well year-round.  Ice is...well, ice, and if you avoid trouble, seek the best line of traction, and use the pedals judiciously, you'll do fine on that too.   I suggest you shop for new tires if you plan to use the car safely.  If it's just a hobby, follow your conscience.  ---Bryan O
> On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:21 PM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
> > Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" snow anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We may have to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice power burnouts. What's more to love?
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
> >   Mark Portland Or.
> > The 2014 National Microcar Show is at
> > www.gpnwmme.com
> > and is sponsored by
> > www.mphspecialties.com
davepdouglass
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Post by davepdouglass »

When I was 16 and driving my Honda 600 everywhere, one night I got out of work at the mall to find  10 inches of fluffy snow to drive home in.  On the way home the snow had drifted so much it was coming up over my hood.  For a while I followed a Police cruiser until he failed to negotiate a curve and ended up spinning out and facing the other way in the other lane.  My little Honda never failed me in the snow and I made it home in one piece no problem.....
Kurt
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Post by Kurt »

I'd say, 160 miles a day in a 600 is a job in its self!!!  I almost do that now, and it would be fun every once in a while to take the 600, but every day.  No way, I'd just take the F I think.;-)  Kurt
On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Yahoo! wrote:
Wow Bryan.. that's impressive. 160 miles per day x 21 work days x 8 years of commuting = 268,800 miles on that little 600 motor... did you have to rebuild it during that time period or did it run fine the entire time.. id be curious to know. im a new an600 owner  had it just a week now so im trying to gather all the info I can.  Ive been reading other posts trying to figure out the basics.. oil filter numbers etc. Sounds like itll be fun owning this new AN 600  good luck
. Rand
From:
TOM THIES ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Bryan O'Shaughnessy
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Monday, February 10, 2014 1:33 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
>    Mark:    While I appreciate that you still
> have
> a running Honda A600 (and I don't), I can't understand your comments about traction and starting in winter weather.      I drove my AZ600 to Chicago for eight years, commuting > roughly 160 miles each day, and I never had a problem starting the motor (being air-cooled, it generated heat before I pulled into traffic!) on Chicago's sub-zero mornings and evenings.  (Yes, that's AIR temp, not wind-chill.)  You're probably aware by now that your transmission won't shift well if you drive over 2,000 miles on an oil-change.  In winter, I used to use 5W30 oil, which helped starting the motor and, of course, lubed the transmission adequately.  Now that we have synthetic > oils, this might be an even better option for you.  It won't break down from heat, it stays a little looser in cold weather than conventional oil, and will probably extend the oil-change interval past 2,000 miles.
>    Snows of twelve inches and more were no problem for me; judicious gear-shifting and an aggressive tire tread (sold by Michelin as "mud and snow" tread) kept me going in snow and worked well year-round.  Ice is...well, ice, and if you avoid trouble, seek the best line of traction, and use the pedals judiciously, you'll do fine on that too.   I suggest you shop for new tires if you plan to use the car safely.  If it's just a hobby, follow your conscience.  ---Bryan O
> On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:21 PM, Mark P Hatten mphatten@...
> > wrote:
> > Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" snow anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We may have to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice power burnouts. What's more to love?
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
> >   Mark Portland Or.
> > The 2014 National Microcar Show is at
> > www.gpnwmme.com
> > and is sponsored by
> > www.mphspecialties.com
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Post by Bryan O_Shaughnessy »

hmmm...I never did the math.  That sounds pretty high to me.  I gave the car to a local community college with slightly over 100k on it.  Maybe---just maybe--- I exaggerated.  No, me? --B
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:12 AM, Kurt wrote:
> I'd say, 160 miles a day in a 600 is a job in its self!!!  I almost do that now, and it would be fun every once in a while to take the 600, but every day.  No way, I'd just take the F I think.;-) >  Kurt > On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Yahoo! caazguy@...
> > wrote:
> > Wow Bryan.. that's impressive. 160 miles per day x 21 work days x 8 years of commuting = 268,800 miles on that little 600 motor... did you have to rebuild it during that time period or did it run fine the entire time.. id be curious to know. im a new an600 owner  had it just a week now so im trying to gather all the info I can.  Ive been reading other posts trying to figure out the basics.. oil filter numbers etc. Sounds like itll be fun owning this new AN 600  good luck
> > . Rand
> > From:
> > TOM THIES > tdthies1@...
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Monday, February 10, 2014 5:47 PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
> > �
> > Bryan
> >  as in Spokane Washington the snow is a dry snow and much easier to drive in.  I remember pushing snow with the bumper on my coupe with good winter Michelin tires.   Portland started out with dry snow as with the coast but I think it turn to a wetter type of snow.  allways good fun in the honda and front wheel drive.  I used to take mine to a large parking lot and get in second gear and hit the emergency brake and turn the wheel and hit the gas,  and around and around we go...lol
> > what fun.  but I also tore my car up pretty bad.  that was back in 1972
> > also if you have a honda I hope you get it running.
> > tom
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Bryan O'Shaughnessy
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday, February 10, 2014 1:33 PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
> > >    Mark:    While I appreciate that you still
> > > have
> > > a running Honda A600 (and I don't), I can't understand your comments about traction and starting in winter weather.      I drove my AZ600 to Chicago for eight years, commuting > > > roughly 160 miles each day, and I never had a problem starting the motor (being air-cooled, it generated heat before I pulled into traffic!) on Chicago's sub-zero mornings and evenings.  (Yes, that's AIR temp, not wind-chill.)  You're probably aware by now that your transmission won't shift well if you drive over 2,000 miles on an oil-change.  In winter, I used to use 5W30 oil, which helped starting the motor and, of course, lubed the transmission adequately.  Now that we have synthetic > > > oils, this might be an even better option for you.  It won't break down from heat, it stays a little looser in cold weather than conventional oil, and will probably extend the oil-change interval past 2,000 miles.
> > >    Snows of twelve inches and more were no problem for me; judicious gear-shifting and an aggressive tire tread (sold by Michelin as "mud and snow" tread) kept me going in snow and worked well year-round.  Ice is...well, ice, and if you avoid trouble, seek the best line of traction, and use the pedals judiciously, you'll do fine on that too.   I suggest you shop for new tires if you plan to use the car safely.  If it's just a hobby, follow your conscience.  ---Bryan O
> > > On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:21 PM, Mark P Hatten > > mphatten@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" snow anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We may have to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice power burnouts. What's more to love?
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
> > > >   Mark Portland Or.
> > > > The 2014 National Microcar Show is at
> > > > www.gpnwmme.com
> > > > and is sponsored by
> > > > www.mphspecialties.com
Bill
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

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Maybe the speedometer cable broke?  If the car was driven on freeways all the time at break neck speeds a 100K could seem like 300K, just a thought.
Bryan O_Shaughnessy
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Re: Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia

Post by Bryan O_Shaughnessy »

that's probably the case.  Sitting on the Eisenhower expressway, shifiting between first and second and first and second and first and second...after an hour or so, it seems like a weekend.
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:44 AM, Bill wrote:
> �
> Maybe the speedometer cable broke?  If the car was
> driven on freeways all the time at break neck speeds a 100K could seem like > 300K, just a thought.
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Bryan
> O'Shaughnessy
> Sent:
> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:05 AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow
> bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
> hmmm...I
> never did the math.  That sounds pretty high to me.  I gave the car to > a local community college with slightly over 100k on it.  Maybe---just > maybe--- I exaggerated.  No, me? --B
> On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:12 AM, Kurt
> wrote:
> > I'd say, 160 miles a day in a 600 is a job in its self!!!  I almost > > do that now, and it would be fun every once in a while to take the 600, but > > every day.  No way, I'd just take the F I think.;-) > >  Kurt
> > On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Yahoo! > caazguy@...
> > > wrote:
> > > Wow Bryan.. that's impressive. 160 miles per day x 21 work days x > > > 8 years of commuting = 268,800 miles on that little 600 motor... did you > > > have to rebuild it during that time period or did it run fine the entire > > > time.. id be curious to know. im a new an600 owner  had it just a week > > > now so im trying to gather all the info I can.  Ive been reading other > > > posts trying to figure out the basics.. oil filter numbers etc. Sounds like > > > itll be fun owning this new AN 600  good luck
> > > . Rand
> > > From:
> > > TOM
> > > THIES > > tdthies1@...
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday,
> > > February 10, 2014 5:47 PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow
> > > bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
> > > �
> > > Bryan
> > >  as in Spokane Washington the snow is a dry snow and much easier > > > to drive in.  I remember pushing snow with the bumper on my coupe with > > > good winter Michelin tires.   Portland started out with dry snow > > > as with the coast but I think it turn to a wetter type of snow.
> > > allways good fun in the honda and front wheel drive.  I used to take > > > mine to a large parking lot and get in second gear and hit the emergency > > > brake and turn the wheel and hit the gas,  and around and around we > > > go...lol
> > > what fun.  but I also tore my car up pretty bad.  that was > > > back in 1972
> > > also if you have a honda I hope you get it running.
> > > tom
> > > > ----- Original
> > > > Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > Bryan
> > > > O'Shaughnessy
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Monday, February 10, 2014 1:33 PM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Snow bound Honda N600 in Portlandia
> > > > Mark:    While I appreciate that you still
> > > > have
> > > > a running Honda A600 (and I don't),
> > > > I can't understand your comments about traction and starting in winter > > > > weather.      I drove my AZ600 to Chicago for eight > > > > years, commuting > > > > roughly 160 miles each day, and I never had a > > > > problem starting the motor (being air-cooled, it generated heat before I > > > > pulled into traffic!) on Chicago's sub-zero mornings and evenings.
> > > > (Yes, that's AIR temp, not wind-chill.)  You're probably aware by now > > > > that your transmission won't shift well if you drive over 2,000 miles on > > > > an oil-change.  In winter, I used to use 5W30 oil, which helped > > > > starting the motor and, of course, lubed the transmission > > > > adequately.  Now that we have synthetic oils, this might be an even > > > > better option for you.  It won't break down from heat, it stays a > > > > little looser in cold weather than conventional oil, and will probably > > > > extend the oil-change interval past 2,000 miles.
> > > >    Snows of twelve inches and more were no problem
> > > > for me; judicious gear-shifting and an aggressive tire tread (sold by > > > > Michelin as "mud and snow" tread) kept me going in snow and worked well > > > > year-round.  Ice is...well, ice, and if you avoid trouble, seek the > > > > best line of traction, and use the pedals judiciously, you'll do fine on > > > > that too.   I suggest you shop for new tires if you plan to use > > > > the car safely.  If it's just a hobby, follow your conscience.
> > > > ---Bryan O
> > > > On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:21 PM,
> > > > Mark P Hatten > > > mphatten@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Day 3 of Honda N600 Snowpocalypse Portland Oregon. We have > > > > > about 4 inches with ice on top. Seems like 4.5 inches is where the Honda > > > > > N600's get high centered. Cabin fever raging. Starting to "not like" > > > > > snow anymore. Lots of ice. No plows, No rock salt, No snow blowers. We > > > > > may have to shovel. This video has it all, cold start, peel out, and ice > > > > > power burnouts. What's more to love?
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSneqfDQvVg
> > > > > Mark Portland Or.
> > > > > The 2014 National Microcar Show is at
> > > > > www.gpnwmme.com
> > > > > and is
> > > > > sponsored by
> > > > > www.mphspecialties.com
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