Need brake cylinders and master cylinder

JGraf · Post by **JGraf** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:17 pm

How about the idle stop solenoid or a poor electrical connection to it?
From:
Jennifer F. Kidder
To:
"2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com"
Sent:
Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
hey folks, I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
my '71 N600 Won't Idle!. I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years! but that parinoia might be because that's how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm Barreling Along in the Fast Lane! at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have: swapped out the fuel pump, batttery, spark plugs / leads, cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else! & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
last thing done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again! {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"} anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :( Now What???
--skip

tdthies1 · Post by **tdthies1** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:35 pm

I think u said that what u did 3 years ago made it better but now back to running bad. Do u have a clean tank? I know u said the filter was changed but have u checked the tiny filter in the carb? That is an easy check
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Kenneth Sievert wrote:
How about the idle stop solenoid or a poor electrical connection to it?
From:
Jennifer F. Kidder
To:
"2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com"
Sent:
Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
hey folks, I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
my '71 N600 Won't Idle!. I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years! but that parinoia might be because that's how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm Barreling Along in the Fast Lane! at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have: swapped out the fuel pump, batttery, spark plugs / leads, cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else! & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
last thing done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again! {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"} anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :( Now What???
--skip

feltonminicycle · Post by **feltonminicycle** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:00 am

Jennifer,
I never worked on your car and you are only 1.25 hours drive unless you consider stalling at freeway speeds? Trailer or towbar it down to Boulder Creek - let's figure it out.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> WOW! You guys rock! just got these & will begin ruminating over
> --skip
> > From: Charles Gould
> >To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >Cc: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
> >Are you sure it is only during idle? because you said that it stalled while you were barreling along in the fast lane. If it were a fuel starvation issue, it would occur at higher RPMs as well. If it were a clogged idle jet, it would just happen at idle.
> >Sounds like an intermittent electrical problem to me. Possibly a bad ground from engine or more likely, a loose wore or short at the points or condenser. Check for broken wire insulation or a missing or bad insulator washer.
> >It could also very likely be a bad ignition coil or condenser, which would be worse as the coil heats up.
> >Chas
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:30 PM, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> >>hey folks,
> >>I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> >>my '71 N600 Won't Idle!. I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years! but that parinoia might be because that's how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm Barreling Along in the Fast Lane! at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have: swapped out the fuel pump, batttery, spark plugs / leads, cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else! & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> >>last thing done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again! {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> >>anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> >>Now What???
> >>--skip

Eric Geiger · Post by **Eric Geiger** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:34 am

If I was that close to miles is get there ASAP. Quit paying mechanics who have never seen one of these to tinker and let the master do the job.
Eric J. Geiger
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XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
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On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:00 AM, "feltonminicycle" wrote:
Jennifer,
I never worked on your car and you are only 1.25 hours drive unless you consider stalling at freeway speeds? Trailer or towbar it down to Boulder Creek - let's figure it out.
Miles
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> WOW! You guys rock! just got these & will begin ruminating over
> --skip
> > From: Charles Gould
> >To: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >Cc: "
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
" >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
> >�
> >Are you sure it is only during idle? because you said that it stalled while you were barreling along in the fast lane. If it were a fuel starvation issue, it would occur at higher RPMs as well. If it were a clogged idle jet, it would just happen at idle.�
> >Sounds like an intermittent electrical problem to me. Possibly a bad ground from engine or more likely, a loose wore or short at the points or condenser. Check for broken wire insulation or a missing or bad insulator washer.�
> >It could also very likely be a bad ignition coil or condenser, which would be worse as the coil heats up.�
> >Chas
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:30 PM, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> >�
> >>hey folks,
> >>I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> >>my '71 N600� Won't Idle!.� I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years!� but that parinoia might be because that's� how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm� Barreling Along in the Fast Lane!� at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have:� swapped out the fuel pump, batttery,� spark plugs / leads,� cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else!� & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> >>last thing� done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again!� {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who� has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> >>anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> >>Now What???
> >>--skip

David Baer · Post by **David Baer** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:23 am

try checking the back of the ignition switch to ensure the bake-lite backing is securely staked into place.� That was my mystery cut-out problem

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Jennifer F. Kidder
�
> hey folks,
> I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> my '71 N600� Won't Idle!.� I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years!� but that parinoia might be because that's� how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm� Barreling Along in the Fast Lane!� at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have:� swapped out the fuel pump, batttery,� spark plugs / leads,� cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else!� & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> last thing� done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again!� {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who� has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> Now What???
> --skip

-- David F. Baer 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311 Honolulu, HI 96815 Cell:� XXX-XXX-XXXX

Charles Gould · Post by **Charles Gould** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:33 am

Great suggestion!

On Aug 11, 2013, at 10:23 AM, David Baer wrote:
> try checking the back of the ignition switch to ensure the bake-lite backing is securely staked into place. That was my mystery cut-out problem
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Jennifer F. Kidder
> skippieiam@...
> wrote:
> > hey folks,
> > I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> > my '71 N600 Won't Idle!. I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years! but that parinoia might be because that's how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm Barreling Along in the Fast Lane! at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have: swapped out the fuel pump, batttery, spark plugs / leads, cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else! & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> > last thing done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> > ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again! {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> > anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> > Now What???
> > --skip
> --
> David F. Baer
> 469 Ena Rd., Apt. #1311
> Honolulu, HI 96815
> Cell: XXX-XXX-XXXX

dwb_07 · Post by **dwb_07** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:44 am

I can't see how one can offer up solutions when you haven't described what is happening and when. You say it "won't idle" and that it stalls. Does it ever show symptoms at a higher RPM? Does it pop, shudder or back fire? Or does it slowly die at idle only? If it is an intermittent electrical connection there would more than likely be back firing. If it is an electrical disconnect the motor would just shut down as if it were turned off and it would happen at any time not just when it is idling. If it slowly dies at low RPM and can always be saved by giving it gas it is a fuel issue. I would rule out timing if it always starts and revs up smoothly.
Please supply more detail on what is happening and when.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> hey folks,
> I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> my '71 N600� Won't Idle!.� I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years!� but that parinoia might be because that's� how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm� Barreling Along in the Fast Lane!� at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have:� swapped out the fuel pump, batttery,� spark plugs / leads,� cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else!� & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> last thing� done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again!� {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who� has worked onor helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> Now What???
> --skip

Jennifer F. Kidder · Post by **Jennifer F. Kidder** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:18 pm

Yes. carb & airfilter cleaned, both several years ago. fuel filter just weeks ago. I'm ashamed to say, not by me; & that I don't know of this tiny filter In the carb. how Do you check that? (I was warned not to open the carborater or it might dissintegrate) I've thought that a long time about the tank! but was told that there is no way to clean it! How would I do That?

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> tdthies1
>
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:37 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
> I think u said that what u did 3 years ago made it better but now back to running bad. Do u have a clean tank? I know u said the filter was changed but have u checked the tiny filter in the carb? That is an easy check > Sent from Samsung tablet
> Kenneth Sievert wrote:
> How about the idle stop solenoid or a poor electrical connection to it?
> From:
> Jennifer F. Kidder
> To:
> "2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent:
> Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:30 PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
> hey folks,
> I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> my '71 N600 Won't Idle!. I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years! but that parinoia might be because that's how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm Barreling Along in the Fast Lane! at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have: swapped out the fuel pump, batttery, spark plugs / leads, cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else! & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> last thing done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again! {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"} > anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :( > Now What???
> --skip

Jennifer F. Kidder · Post by **Jennifer F. Kidder** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:53 pm

YOU ARE AWSOME!! you are all unbelievable & I'm a little overwhelmed.
1. my car Would stall on the freeway...+ I haven't even told you guys about the breaks yet.
cazy as it is with this car, I have neither a 'trailer' nor a 'towbar' nor a friend w/ a pickup. I don't think my AAA coverage extends that far, but I can check! If I can figure out a way to get my car to you, Miles, I will Fly there!!
2. Chas, I live in Berkely CA 1mi west of the University (where are you?) [&, yes!!, I would love someone to take a look at it here! -maybe show me this thing you said about the sparkplugs or David's break-light backing- ......oye vey, the breaks... ] 3. dwb, Yes, cuts out at hi rpm; has never popped or backfired; doesn't 'slowly die'--Dies!; can't Always be saved by peddling gas; doesn't Always start & rev up smoothly.
& I don't understand your definition of an 'electrical disconnect' as different from an 'intermittant electrical connection'. If the car ever moves at all, (which it does) wouldn't any electric cause of stalling Have to be intermittant?
ok, gotta go running now; I feel a renewal of energy.
& really, again, you guys are amazing.
--talk soon, skip

> From:
> feltonminicycle
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:00 AM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: mechanical symptom advice ???
> Jennifer,
> I never worked on your car and you are only 1.25 hours drive unless you consider stalling at freeway speeds? Trailer or towbar it down to Boulder Creek - let's figure it out.
> Miles
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> , "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> > WOW! You guys rock! just got these & will begin ruminating over
> > --skip
> > > From: Charles Gould
> > >To: "
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> " 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > >Cc: "
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> " 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:54 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
> > >�
> > >Are you sure it is only during idle? because you said that it stalled while you were barreling along in the fast lane. If it were a fuel starvation issue, it would occur at higher RPMs as well. If it were a clogged idle jet, it would just happen at idle.�
> > >Sounds like an intermittent electrical problem to me. Possibly a bad ground from engine or more likely, a loose wore or short at the points or condenser. Check for broken wire insulation or a missing or bad insulator washer.�
> > >It could also very likely be a bad ignition coil or condenser, which would be worse as the coil heats up.�
> > >Chas
> > >Sent from my iPhone
> > >On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:30 PM, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> > >�
> > >>hey folks,
> > >>I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> > >>my '71 N600� Won't Idle!.� I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years!� but that parinoia might be because that's� how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm� Barreling Along in the Fast Lane!� at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have:� swapped out the fuel pump, batttery,� spark plugs / leads,� cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else!� & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> > >>last thing� done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> > ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again!� {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who� has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> > >>anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> > >>Now What???
> > >>--skip

Charles Gould · Post by **Charles Gould** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:30 pm

Hi Skip, Upgrade your AAA to the AAA PLUS premium membership, which offers flatbed towing up to 100 miles of more, which should get you real close to Miles, or drive until it breaks and then call on your AAA Plus membership to tow the rest of the way to Miles. He is the Guru for these cars, and if he can't solve it, nobody can!
I think that you have a number of interrelated problems, all of which are affecting each other to conspire against the reliable running of this car.
suspect that a lot of these problems have actually been caused by so many unknowledgeable mechanics screwing around with the car, and your frantic attempts to keep it running by pumping the gas pedal, and cranking the engine till the plugs are fouled.....AGAIN and AGAIN.
This may have also damaged the coil or condenser.
Also, by changing so many variables, it becomes impossible to determine whether you have found the original fault, or introduced new additional faults. It is imperative to have a calculated, methodical approach to diagnosing the problems before changing things at random or just throwing new parts at the car.
This is all simple stuff and not too expensive, but it is crucial to find someone who is familiar with these engines, which are much more akin to a motorcycle engine than a car engine, so a proper motorcycle mechanic (or better yet, Honda 600 mechanic) would really make a difference. Miles is your guy, and he is pretty close.
You will love this car, once you get it dialed in, and Miles is the guy to do it. It is well worth the tow to get it to him, and the tow may even be free if you upgrade to the AAA PLUS membership. There is nothing worse than not being able to enjoy the car because you fear that it will leave you stranded. Get it sorted with Miles' help, and you will have so much fun with this car.
Chas PS: I am on the east coast near Boston, so I am afraid that I won't be much help to you.

On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Jennifer F. Kidder wrote:
> YOU ARE AWSOME!! you are all unbelievable & I'm a little overwhelmed.
> 1. my car Would stall on the freeway...+ I haven't even told you guys about the breaks yet.
> cazy as it is with this car, I have neither a 'trailer' nor a 'towbar' nor a friend w/ a pickup. I don't think my AAA coverage extends that far, but I can check! If I can figure out a way to get my car to you, Miles, I will Fly there!!
> 2. Chas, I live in Berkely CA 1mi west of the University (where are you?) > [&, yes!!, I would love someone to take a look at it here! -maybe show me this thing you said about the sparkplugs or David's break-light backing- ......oye > vey, the breaks... ] > 3. dwb, Yes, cuts out at hi rpm; has never popped or backfired; doesn't 'slowly die'--Dies!; can't Always be > saved by peddling gas; doesn't Always start & rev up smoothly.
> & I don't understand your definition of an 'electrical disconnect' as different from an 'intermittant electrical connection'. If the car ever moves at all, (which it does) wouldn't any electric cause of stalling Have to be intermittant?
> ok, gotta go running now; I feel a renewal of energy.
> & really, again, you guys are amazing.
> --talk soon, skip
> > From:
> > feltonminicycle > z600miles@...
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:00 AM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: mechanical symptom advice ???
> > Jennifer,
> > I never worked on your car and you are only 1.25 hours drive unless you consider stalling at freeway speeds? Trailer or towbar it down to Boulder Creek - let's figure it out.
> > Miles
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> > > WOW! You guys rock! just got these & will begin ruminating over
> > > --skip
> > > > From: Charles Gould
> > > >To: "
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > " > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Cc: "
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > " > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:54 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] mechanical symptom advice ???
> > > >�
> > > >Are you sure it is only during idle? because you said that it stalled while you were barreling along in the fast lane. If it were a fuel starvation issue, it would occur at higher RPMs as well. If it were a clogged idle jet, it would just happen at idle.�
> > > >Sounds like an intermittent electrical problem to me. Possibly a bad ground from engine or more likely, a loose wore or short at the points or condenser. Check for broken wire insulation or a missing or bad insulator washer.�
> > > >It could also very likely be a bad ignition coil or condenser, which would be worse as the coil heats up.�
> > > >Chas
> > > >Sent from my iPhone
> > > >On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:30 PM, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
> > > >�
> > > >>hey folks,
> > > >>I don't know if you guys do this, I'm hoping your collective expertise can tell me what I'm missing:
> > > >>my '71 N600� Won't Idle!.� I feel like I've been trying to keep it from stalling for 10 years!� but that parinoia might be because that's� how long it has sporatically stalled While I'm� Barreling Along in the Fast Lane!� at the advice of various mechanics, I &/or they have:� swapped out the fuel pump, batttery,� spark plugs / leads,� cleaned carborater & air filter, ...I don't know what else!� & these things haven't worn out again; barely driven over past several years because it's so depressing : sometimes the problem is solved for 3blocks!, 10 miles, 1 month,...
> > > >>last thing� done was new fuel filter. (~2weeks
> > > ago) & I paid a mechacic alot to get to the bottom of this problem; that's all he did, & now it's theatening to stall again!� {I really donot wish to disparage this last guy. everyone who� has worked on or helpedme work on this issue, says "yeah, that's not a problem anymore" or worse"it never was"}
> > > >>anyway, I had thought the fuel filter made sense. :(
> > > >>Now What???
> > > >>--skip

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