In the process of pulling the battery and tray for my rectifier-cable-replacement project, I discovered some wiring that could only be done by some previous owner. I cannot tell what on earth this guy had in mind! It's a four-pin connector, the sort that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to connect trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the side, where it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading for the back of the car. I have not yet traced it to the end.
See this picture of the cable in the engine bay. I have left it all intact for further investigation. Anybody care to guess what this is all about?
Steve
PO wiring
Re: PO wiring
Steve, it might be for tail-light wiring for pulling your Honda on a tow bar behind
an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for lights, except it's not a trailer,
it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and see if there has been
a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the Honda could be towed w/all
four wheels down. Ray
an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for lights, except it's not a trailer,
it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and see if there has been
a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the Honda could be towed w/all
four wheels down. Ray
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Fri, 9/5/08, Steven Michelsen
wrote:
From: Steven Michelsen
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
To: "Honda group - anzhonda600owners" , "Honda group - 2cylinderhondas" Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 8:41 AM
In the process of pulling the battery and tray for my rectifier-cable- replacement project, I discovered some wiring that could only be done by some previous owner. I cannot tell what on earth this guy had in mind! It's a four-pin connector, the sort that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to connect trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the side, where it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading for the back of the car. I have not yet traced it to the end.
See this picture
of the cable in the engine bay. I have left it all intact for further investigation. Anybody care to guess what this is all about?
Steve
Re: PO wiring
That's what I get for guessing that the connector was used for something other than what it was made for! I could test it using my car, but the only trouble is that the plug is the same gender (three female, one male) as the connector that's on the back of my minivan. I could rig something for a test though. There is no remnant of a tow bar - but I imagine that one could be designed to use the bolts at the two forward motor mount points.
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> Steve, it might be for tail-light wiring for pulling your Honda on > a tow bar behind
> an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for lights, > except it's not a trailer,
> it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and see if > there has been
> a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the Honda could > be towed w/all
> four wheels down. Ray
> --- On
> Fri, 9/5/08, Steven
> Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> > From:
> > Steven Michelsen
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> > To: "Honda group - anzhonda600owners"
> > , "Honda group - > > 2cylinderhondas" > > Date:
> > Friday, September 5, 2008, 8:41 AM
> > In the process of pulling the battery and
> > tray for my rectifier-cable- replacement project, I discovered some > > wiring that could only be done by some previous owner. I cannot > > tell what on earth this guy had in mind! It's a four-pin > > connector, the sort that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to > > connect trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes > > through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the side, where > > it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading for the back of the > > car. I have not yet traced it to the end.
> > See this picture
> > of the cable in the engine
> > bay. I have left it all intact for further investigation.
> > Anybody care to guess what this is all about?
> > Steve
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Re: PO wiring
Steve, I suggested this because of the 4 wire flat that is used, like most
small trailer light hook-ups now - when R.V.'s were just coming of age,
and the "600's" weren't collectible yet, some were towed all 4 wheels
down (as long as you remembered to leave the steering wheel in the
unlocked position) with a towbar for transportation when you got to your
destination - you didn't need a dolly or trailer - the most popular vehicle
for that now is the Jeep - I did tow an early Prelude this way to
Fairbanks, Alaska and back from Kansas City years ago. Ray
small trailer light hook-ups now - when R.V.'s were just coming of age,
and the "600's" weren't collectible yet, some were towed all 4 wheels
down (as long as you remembered to leave the steering wheel in the
unlocked position) with a towbar for transportation when you got to your
destination - you didn't need a dolly or trailer - the most popular vehicle
for that now is the Jeep - I did tow an early Prelude this way to
Fairbanks, Alaska and back from Kansas City years ago. Ray
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wrote:
From: Steven Michelsen
Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:17 AM
That's what I get for guessing that the connector was used for something other than what it was made for! I could test it using my car, but the only trouble is that the plug is the same gender (three female, one male) as the connector that's on the back of my minivan. I could rig something for a test though. There is no remnant of a tow bar - but I imagine that one could be designed to use the bolts at the two forward motor mount points.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Ray Cave
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Friday, September 05, 2008 9:51 AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> Steve, it might be for tail-light wiring for pulling your Honda on a tow bar behind
> an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for lights, except it's not a trailer,
> it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and see if there has been
> a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the Honda could be towed w/all
> four wheels down. Ray
> --- On
> Fri, 9/5/08, Steven Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> > From: Steven Michelsen
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> > To: "Honda group - anzhonda600owners" , "Honda group - 2cylinderhondas" > > Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 8:41 AM
> > In the process of pulling the battery and tray for my rectifier-cable- replacement project, I discovered some wiring that could only be done by some previous owner. I cannot tell what on earth this guy had in mind! It's a four-pin connector, the sort that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to connect trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the side, where it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading for the back of the car. I have not yet traced it to the end.
> > See this picture
> > of the cable in the engine bay. I have left it all intact for further investigation. Anybody care to guess what this is all about?
> > Steve
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Re: PO wiring
Steve;
Ray Cave, the Eagle-et (sp) king of the world is correct. I have seen a few of them set up this way, but I will bet Ray has done the setting up. I always wondered if this would also be charging the battery at the same time?
Ray, any notes on this?
Bill
Ray Cave, the Eagle-et (sp) king of the world is correct. I have seen a few of them set up this way, but I will bet Ray has done the setting up. I always wondered if this would also be charging the battery at the same time?
Ray, any notes on this?
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > Ray Cave > Sent:
> Friday, September 05, 2008 6:51
> AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re:
> [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> Steve, it might be for tail-light wiring for pulling your Honda on > a tow bar behind
> an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for lights, > except it's not a trailer,
> it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and see if > there has been
> a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the Honda could > be towed w/all
> four wheels down. Ray
> --- On
> Fri, 9/5/08, Steven
> Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> > From: Steven
> > Michelsen
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> > To: "Honda group - anzhonda600owners"
> > , "Honda group - > > 2cylinderhondas" > > > > Date: Friday, > > September 5, 2008, 8:41 AM
> > In the process of pulling the battery and
> > tray for my rectifier-cable- replacement project, I discovered some > > wiring that could only be done by some previous owner. I cannot > > tell what on earth this guy had in mind! It's a four-pin > > connector, the sort that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to > > connect trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes > > through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the side, where > > it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading for the back of the > > car. I have not yet traced it to the end.
> > See this picture
> > of the cable in the engine
> > bay. I have left it all intact for further investigation.
> > Anybody care to guess what this is all about?
> > Steve
Re: PO wiring
Bill, this wiring (4 wire flat) would probably just be for the tail lights only and
would give you working tail lights, brake lights and turn signals on the towed
vehicle (think trailer, which would be the same). It would be completely
independent of the battery. There would be no charge or drain on the battery,
but the tail lights would work just fine even if your battery was flat or even
missing. If you wanted to charge your battery while in motion, it would take
an additional, heavier wire than what is on the 4 wire flat and could always be
added if you thought there was a need. That wire would probably want to stop
at the battery, rather than going through the rest of the wiring to the rear lights
and then back up to the battery. But back to the original question, why is the
wiring there ? If you've ever towed your aux. vehicle on a trailer or dolly, you
can really appreciate just backing up to a Honda 600, hooking up your tow
bar, plugging in your wiring, and heading down the highway. But like I said
earlier, this was probably all being done before the 600's were collectible.
I imagine at this point in time, Steve could remove the wiring, no problem.
Ray Cave eagle-hd
would give you working tail lights, brake lights and turn signals on the towed
vehicle (think trailer, which would be the same). It would be completely
independent of the battery. There would be no charge or drain on the battery,
but the tail lights would work just fine even if your battery was flat or even
missing. If you wanted to charge your battery while in motion, it would take
an additional, heavier wire than what is on the 4 wire flat and could always be
added if you thought there was a need. That wire would probably want to stop
at the battery, rather than going through the rest of the wiring to the rear lights
and then back up to the battery. But back to the original question, why is the
wiring there ? If you've ever towed your aux. vehicle on a trailer or dolly, you
can really appreciate just backing up to a Honda 600, hooking up your tow
bar, plugging in your wiring, and heading down the highway. But like I said
earlier, this was probably all being done before the 600's were collectible.
I imagine at this point in time, Steve could remove the wiring, no problem.
Ray Cave eagle-hd
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Sat, 9/6/08, billmyong@...
wrote:
From: billmyong@...
Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
To: "Anzhonda600owners" , 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 9:28 AM
Steve;
Ray Cave, the Eagle-et (sp) king of the world is correct. I have seen a few of them set up this way, but I will bet Ray has done the setting up. I always wondered if this would also be charging the battery at the same time?
Ray, any notes on this?
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > On Behalf Of > Ray Cave > Sent:
> Friday, September 05, 2008 6:51 AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> Steve, it might be for tail-light wiring for pulling your Honda on a tow bar behind
> an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for lights, except it's not a trailer,
> it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and see if there has been
> a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the Honda could be towed w/all
> four wheels down. Ray
> --- On
> Fri, 9/5/08, Steven Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> > From: Steven Michelsen
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> > To: "Honda group - anzhonda600owners" , "Honda group - 2cylinderhondas" > > Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 8:41 AM
> > In the process of pulling the battery and tray for my rectifier-cable- replacement project, I discovered some wiring that could only be done by some previous owner. I cannot tell what on earth this guy had in mind! It's a four-pin connector, the sort that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to connect trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the side, where it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading for the back of the car. I have not yet traced it to the end.
> > See this picture
> > of the cable in the engine bay. I have left it all intact for further investigation. Anybody care to guess what this is all about?
> > Steve
Re: PO wiring
Hi Ray;
Yep, understand, but think of recharging your battery by plugging in a wire from one cigar lighter to another, it does work, and the body feed is wired the same for lights as it is for the cigar lighter. So if you are pushing 12V to the lights why not to the battery. A test would be plugging it in and remove the positive side of the battery and hook a volt meter up to it. I will bet there is power. That would trickle charge your battery.
Bill
Yep, understand, but think of recharging your battery by plugging in a wire from one cigar lighter to another, it does work, and the body feed is wired the same for lights as it is for the cigar lighter. So if you are pushing 12V to the lights why not to the battery. A test would be plugging it in and remove the positive side of the battery and hook a volt meter up to it. I will bet there is power. That would trickle charge your battery.
Bill
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> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > Ray Cave > Sent:
> Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:19
> AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> RE:
> [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> Bill, this wiring (4 wire flat) would probably just be for the tail > lights only and
> would give you working tail lights, brake lights and turn signals > on the towed
> vehicle (think trailer, which would be the same). It would be > completely
> independent of the battery. There would be no charge or drain on > the battery,
> but the tail lights would work just fine even if your battery was > flat or even
> missing. If you wanted to charge your battery while in motion, it > would take
> an additional, heavier wire than what is on the 4 wire flat and > could always be
> added if you thought there was a need. That wire would probably > want to stop
> at the battery, rather than going through the rest of the wiring to > the rear lights
> and then back up to the battery. But back to the original
> question, why is the
> wiring there ? If you've ever towed your aux. vehicle on a trailer > or dolly, you
> can really appreciate just backing up to a Honda 600, hooking up > your tow
> bar, plugging in your wiring, and heading down the highway.
> But like I said
> earlier, this was probably all being done before the 600's were > collectible.
> I imagine at this point in time, Steve could remove the
> wiring, no problem.
> Ray Cave
> eagle-hd
> --- On
> Sat, 9/6/08,
> billmyong@earthlink .net
>
> wrote:
> > From:
> > billmyong@earthlink .net
> >
> > Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas]
> > PO wiring
> > To: "Anzhonda600owners"
> > ,
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, September
> > 6, 2008, 9:28 AM
> > Steve;
> > Ray Cave, the Eagle-et
> > (sp) king of the world is correct. I have seen a few of them set > > up this way, but I will bet Ray has done the setting up. I > > always wondered if this would also be charging the battery at the same > > time?
> > Ray, any notes on this?
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > On > > > Behalf Of > > > Ray Cave > > > Sent:
> > > Friday, September 05, 2008
> > > 6:51 AM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups.
> > > com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] PO
> > > wiring
> > > Steve, it might be for tail-light wiring for pulling your > > > Honda on a tow bar behind
> > > an R.V. - it would be like wiring a small trailer for
> > > lights, except it's not a trailer,
> > > it's a Honda - you might look under the front bumper and > > > see if there has been
> > > a tow bar attached in it's previous life - I think the > > > Honda could be towed w/all
> > > four wheels down. Ray
> > > --- On
> > > Fri, 9/5/08,
> > > Steven Michelsen
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > From: Steven
> > > > Michelsen > > > > Subject:
> > > > [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> > > > To: "Honda group -
> > > > anzhonda600owners" > > > com>, "Honda group - 2cylinderhondas" > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, > > > > September 5, 2008, 8:41 AM
> > > > In the process of pulling the
> > > > battery and tray for my rectifier-cable- replacement > > > > project, I discovered some wiring that could only be done by > > > > some previous owner. I cannot tell what on earth this > > > > guy had in mind! It's a four-pin connector, the sort > > > > that's found on the rear bumper of one's car, to connect > > > > trailer lighting, with some slack and a cable that goes > > > > through the firewall, then traces inside the car along the > > > > side, where it is connected to a multi-wire strip heading > > > > for the back of the car. I have not yet traced it to > > > > the end.
> > > > See this picture
> > > > of the cable
> > > > in the engine bay. I have left it all intact for > > > > further investigation. Anybody care to guess what > > > > this is all about?
> > > > Steve
Re: PO wiring
Bill,
I don't believe you are correct. While the cigarette lighter may have a direct path back to the 12 volt
battery, the lights have a path to the +12 volts battery via the switches (turn signal and headlight switches).
If the switches are in their open state (off), any voltage applied by the trailer wiring will not find its way to the battery. All the rear lighting on the 600 has one side grounded and the other side is activated by applying
+12 via a switch (brake switch, turn signal switch, and headlight switch).
Dale
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I don't believe you are correct. While the cigarette lighter may have a direct path back to the 12 volt
battery, the lights have a path to the +12 volts battery via the switches (turn signal and headlight switches).
If the switches are in their open state (off), any voltage applied by the trailer wiring will not find its way to the battery. All the rear lighting on the 600 has one side grounded and the other side is activated by applying
+12 via a switch (brake switch, turn signal switch, and headlight switch).
Dale
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> understand, but think of recharging your battery by plugging in a wire from > one cigar lighter to another, it does work, and the body feed is wired the > same for lights as it is for the cigar lighter. So if you are pushing > 12V to the lights why not to the battery. A test would be > plugging it in and remove the positive side of the battery and hook a volt > meter up to it. I will bet there is power. That would trickle > charge your battery.
> Bill
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Re: PO wiring
Dale;
Yes, understand what your saying, but the lights are on via the hookup with the tow vehicle and the Honda 600 body feed which is on all the time. That's why the lights come on when the switches are pulled. The turn signals route thought the ignition, but the emergency blinkers, parking lights and head lights are hot all the time and depending on where they attached the turn signal the power could be pushed to the battery.
Bill
Yes, understand what your saying, but the lights are on via the hookup with the tow vehicle and the Honda 600 body feed which is on all the time. That's why the lights come on when the switches are pulled. The turn signals route thought the ignition, but the emergency blinkers, parking lights and head lights are hot all the time and depending on where they attached the turn signal the power could be pushed to the battery.
Bill
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> Sent:
> Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:11
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> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re:
> [2cylinderhondas] PO wiring
> Bill,
> I don't believe you are correct. While the cigarette
> lighter may have a direct path back to the 12 volt
> battery, the lights have a path to the +12 volts battery via the > switches (turn signal and headlight switches).
> If the switches are in their open state (off), any voltage applied > by the trailer wiring will not find its way to the battery. All the rear > lighting on the 600 has one side grounded and the other side is activated by > applying
> +12 via a switch (brake switch, turn signal switch, and headlight > switch).
> Dale
> > Yep, understand, but think of recharging your battery by plugging in > > a wire from one cigar lighter to another, it does work, and the body feed is > > wired the same for lights as it is for the cigar lighter. So if you > > are pushing 12V to the lights why not to the battery. A > > test would be plugging it in and remove the positive side of the battery and > > hook a volt meter up to it. I will bet there is power. That > > would trickle charge your battery.
> > Bill
> Psssst...Have you heard the news?
> There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair > styles at StyleList.com > .
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Re: PO wiring
Dennis what tune up parts do you have?
Bill
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