Rear shocks

dealadayray · Post by **dealadayray** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:17 am

Hi Riceburner;
The VW shock does work, but as you said, it is not a full swap. You must
grind down the lower end (make it as wide as the Honda shock) then flatten
the seam that hits the shock where the body is spot welded together. Then
they work just fine and if your front struts are getting a bit loose due to
age, the VW shock will correct most of the body roll.
Bill

riceburner006 · Post by **riceburner006** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:17 pm

--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, "william colford"
wrote:

> Hi Riceburner;
> The VW shock does work, but as you said, it is not a full swap. You must
> grind down the lower end (make it as wide as the Honda shock) then flatten
> the seam that hits the shock where the body is spot welded together. Then
> they work just fine and if your front struts are getting a bit loose due to
> age, the VW shock will correct most of the body roll.
> Bill

Thank you for that clarification! I use koni's,but they also needed
modified at the bottom eye.The stock shocks still seem the best
though! Did you ever try changing the strut oil to a heavier
weight,like a fork oil from a bike? Lot of work!! I did it on a pair
of honda shocks by drilling ,filling,and brazing hole shut. worked
great. Don't remember what weight oil I used,probably 20W.fork oil.
riceburner006

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "riceburner006"
> To: Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 6:26 AM
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Rear shocks
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "nicholas_riopelle2001"
> wrote:
> > I dont have a specific shock part number, as there are a few
> > different brands. Just asks for front shocks, (I purchased gas
> > charged) for a 1971 VW beetle with the torsion bar, and ball- joint
> > front suspension. They are a little stiff at first, but break in
> > well, and give a great ride.
> > Nick
> I don't see how they would even fit! They look like shocks for a
> full size car! Lower mount too wide,and dust shield too large in
> diameter. Part man guru said it doesn't specify whether it has ball
> joints or not-all the same. That was at napa. Also checked at a
> large chain store junk shop! Sorry,if you don't give me the year and
> model,I can't help you!! riceburner006
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dealadayray · Post by **dealadayray** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:39 pm

Hi riceburner006;
No, I have not filled any of the struts or shocks. And, your right on
the shocks being not as good as stock Honda, but when nothing else is
available, we use what we can. I talked to Koni on rebuilding a set of
their struts, cost with shipping was $125.00 each. But they would be like
new. I may think about it some time, I have a complete set for a Coupe,
but they need rebuilding.
Bill

dawn_and_darrian · Post by **dawn_and_darrian** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:31 am

I know this has been covered, but I thought I'd ask for a little more information.
My z600 needs new rear shocks. I was thinking of putting the shocks from the n600 into the z600 and getting new shocks for the n600. Odds are I'll be driving the n600 more, so I'd rather have the new shocks on the n600.
So, I know that I can get front shocks from a 69-71 VW and they'll fit with a little modification. I've also read that I can get Datsun 520 shocks and they'll fit, although I'm having a difficult time finding them. I've seen a few people have Koni shocks on their n600, although I don't know the model, information, etc.
This is a link to tirerack's shocks for a 1970 Beetle. Can anyone tell me if they will work?
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/Susp ... fcat=track
Can anyone give a link as to where I can obtain new shocks that will work? Has there been a writeup on replacing them?

MarkN · Post by **MarkN** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:15 pm

I ended up with the VW shocks on back of my n600. It wasn't a plug n
play operation, but I don't remember it being horrendously bad either.
The shocks I ended up with are made by Boge, and they are the softest
shocks I could find. Most of the aftermarket shocks have way too much
dampening for the light weight of a n600 rear end and result in an
overly stiff ride.
If you can't find them mail order, go to you local VW shop... they'll
most likely have them in stock.
-Miles E.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Matt Timion" wrote:
> I know this has been covered, but I thought I'd ask for a little
more information.
> My z600 needs new rear shocks. I was thinking of putting the shocks
from the n600 into the z600 and getting new shocks for the n600. Odds
are I'll be driving the n600 more, so I'd rather have the new shocks
on the n600.
> So, I know that I can get front shocks from a 69-71 VW and they'll
fit with a little modification. I've also read that I can get Datsun
520 shocks and they'll fit, although I'm having a difficult time
finding them. I've seen a few people have Koni shocks on their n600,
although I don't know the model, information, etc.
> This is a link to tirerack's shocks for a 1970 Beetle. Can anyone
tell me if they will work?
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/Susp ... fcat=track
> Can anyone give a link as to where I can obtain new shocks that will
work? Has there been a writeup on replacing them?

friend · Post by **friend** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:26 am

If you go to the tuner shops the 66 - 69 maybe 72 DATSUN small pickup has
had a lot of after market shocks. The front shocks will bolt in (but you
have to remove the cross plate with bolt holes. The VW shocks have to be
ground down on both sides of the lower mount and you have to flatten the
body seam about 2.5 inches. Stiff, yep. loose teeth will fall out, but
after a month or so you will enjoy the better truning (less body roll)
capablility it gives.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of wanna600
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:54 PM
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Rear shocks
I ended up with the VW shocks on back of my n600. It wasn't a plug n
play operation, but I don't remember it being horrendously bad either.
The shocks I ended up with are made by Boge, and they are the softest
shocks I could find. Most of the aftermarket shocks have way too much
dampening for the light weight of a n600 rear end and result in an
overly stiff ride.
If you can't find them mail order, go to you local VW shop... they'll
most likely have them in stock.
-Miles E.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Matt Timion" wrote:
> I know this has been covered, but I thought I'd ask for a little
more information.
> My z600 needs new rear shocks. I was thinking of putting the shocks
from the n600 into the z600 and getting new shocks for the n600. Odds
are I'll be driving the n600 more, so I'd rather have the new shocks
on the n600.
> So, I know that I can get front shocks from a 69-71 VW and they'll
fit with a little modification. I've also read that I can get Datsun
520 shocks and they'll fit, although I'm having a difficult time
finding them. I've seen a few people have Koni shocks on their n600,
although I don't know the model, information, etc.
> This is a link to tirerack's shocks for a 1970 Beetle. Can anyone
tell me if they will work?
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/Susp ... n&autoMode
l=Beetle&autoYear=1970&autoModClar=&category=Shocks&scat=Shocks&category=Spr
ings&scat=Springs&category=Kit&scat=Kit&category=CoilOver&scat=CoilOver&cate
gory=AdvSuspSys&scat=AdvSuspSys&category=AntiRoll&scat=AntiRoll&category=Boo
tMount&scat=BootMount&brand=all&perfcat=premium&perfcat=perf&perfcat=track
> Can anyone give a link as to where I can obtain new shocks that will
work? Has there been a writeup on replacing them?

MarkN · Post by **MarkN** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:43 pm

The first set of rear shocks that I bought were KYB GR2's (from tire
rack)... very stiff. When I replaced the KYB's with the new softer
Boge's, I also built up new spring packs, adding a coupe's leafs to my
sedan's leafs. The combination of maybe twice the spring rate and the
softer shocks yeilded a better ride and more roll stiffness than my
original KYB setup.
One hazard though... when increasing rear roll stiffness, be sure to
stiffen up the front end as well, or you end up with oversteer when
you loose traction. Not the safest thing for a street car.
-Miles E.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
> If you go to the tuner shops the 66 - 69 maybe 72 DATSUN small
pickup has
> had a lot of after market shocks. The front shocks will bolt in
(but you
> have to remove the cross plate with bolt holes. The VW shocks have
to be
> ground down on both sides of the lower mount and you have to flatten the
> body seam about 2.5 inches. Stiff, yep. loose teeth will fall out, but
> after a month or so you will enjoy the better truning (less body roll)
> capablility it gives.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of wanna600
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:54 PM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Rear shocks
> I ended up with the VW shocks on back of my n600. It wasn't a plug n
> play operation, but I don't remember it being horrendously bad either.
> The shocks I ended up with are made by Boge, and they are the softest
> shocks I could find. Most of the aftermarket shocks have way too much
> dampening for the light weight of a n600 rear end and result in an
> overly stiff ride.
> If you can't find them mail order, go to you local VW shop... they'll
> most likely have them in stock.
> -Miles E.
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Matt Timion" wrote:
> > I know this has been covered, but I thought I'd ask for a little
> more information.
> > My z600 needs new rear shocks. I was thinking of putting the shocks
> from the n600 into the z600 and getting new shocks for the n600. Odds
> are I'll be driving the n600 more, so I'd rather have the new shocks
> on the n600.
> > So, I know that I can get front shocks from a 69-71 VW and they'll
> fit with a little modification. I've also read that I can get Datsun
> 520 shocks and they'll fit, although I'm having a difficult time
> finding them. I've seen a few people have Koni shocks on their n600,
> although I don't know the model, information, etc.
> > This is a link to tirerack's shocks for a 1970 Beetle. Can anyone
> tell me if they will work?
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/Susp ... n&autoMode
l=Beetle&autoYear=1970&autoModClar=&category=Shocks&scat=Shocks&category=Spr
ings&scat=Springs&category=Kit&scat=Kit&category=CoilOver&scat=CoilOver&cate
gory=AdvSuspSys&scat=AdvSuspSys&category=AntiRoll&scat=AntiRoll&category=Boo
tMount&scat=BootMount&brand=all&perfcat=premium&perfcat=perf&perfcat=track
> > Can anyone give a link as to where I can obtain new shocks that will
> work? Has there been a writeup on replacing them?

cotton · Post by **cotton** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:50 pm

Hey guys, Dale was who told me about the NAPA shocks. Indeed they do
fit.
Hope to tell you later, may be next year, how the ride is. They are gas
shocks
BTW Still need a Solenoid for Carb. Anyone if you have one for sale
send me total shipped price and your mailing address and I'll get a postal
money order in the mail. Dale thanks for the shock tip and all the rest.
cotteni@...

Greg · Post by **Greg** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 am

A rare find
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-Z600-A ... 2572036a1b

TOM THIES · Post by **TOM THIES** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:37 am

those must be black painted over Gold shocks. Wow.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Greg
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:18 AM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Rear
> shocks
> A rare find
> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-Z600-A ... 2572036a1b