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galerep54630
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Flat towing N600

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Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John 

 
dusty path
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Re: Flat towing N600

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I have pulled my car  as it had a tow bar on it  but only in town. and that's for automatic  not stick shift  but its real bad on tires  but what I would do it a dolly  just for the front  tires  or just buy a little trailer  there very cheap



On Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:20 PM, "jgraf@... [2cylinderhondas]" wrote:


  Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John 
 
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rstevens19
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Re: Flat towing N600

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Hi John,   I did a little analysis on the 600 lubrication system and I have concluded that the transmission is primarily lubricated through splash activity from the differential ring gear.  The remaining lubrication is through the drain-down and splash from the engine lube system. Keeping that in mind during a long distance tow, the reverse gears would suffer inadequate lubrication (they are outside the internal gear cavity) without the engine running while the internal gears of the main and countershafts would probably be good. Bottom line USE A DOLLY or TRAILER.  My two cents worth, hope it helps.  Richard S.   From: jgraf@... [2cylinderhondas] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:19 PM To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Flat towing N600    

Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John


 



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Bill Colford
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Re: Flat towing N600

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The reverse gear is in the sump just like the top of the other gears.  It s all splash.  I have towed cars many times on all 4 s and not had any problems as long as the tires are good and steering locked in the right direction. Bill
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Hi John,   I did a little analysis on the 600 lubrication system and I have concluded that the transmission is primarily lubricated through splash activity from the differential ring gear.  The remaining lubrication is through the drain-down and splash from the engine lube system. Keeping that in mind during a long distance tow, the reverse gears would suffer inadequate lubrication (they are outside the internal gear cavity) without the engine running while the internal gears of the main and countershafts would probably be good. Bottom line USE A DOLLY or TRAILER.  My two cents worth, hope it helps.  Richard S.   From: jgraf@... [2cylinderhondas] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:19 PM To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Flat towing N600    
Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John


 



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dusty path
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Re: Flat towing N600

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also if u just leave  the key in  the  steering wheel will not be  locked u don't have  to have the key on  just in  and the lock will  not be in gauged  that's how I pulled  my  car  but as I have said  it was only in town  did not hurt the transmission    as I just had my engine all apart  to rebuild. the transmission  was fine and I made a tow bar  for the bumper  but  I had to drill out  the bumper holes were it mounts  so that maybe the fun part  is having someone make a  tow bar for u  to mount

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:20 PM, "jgraf@... [2cylinderhondas]" wrote:


  Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John 
 
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J Graf
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Re: Flat towing N600

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Thanks for the comments. I learned a lot more about flat towing issues from this group. I appreciate the input. John
dm600z
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Re: Flat towing N600

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If you look in the owner's manual it has a section about towing with all the wheels on the ground.  As Bill stated,   it is okay to do and unlock the steering wheel.  The downside of towing without a trailer is the extra wear and tear on the car (tires & suspension).   Dale   PS   the owner's manual is available online  
 
Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John 


 


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Re: Flat towing N600

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On Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:20 PM, "jgraf@... [2cylinderhondas]" wrote:


  Anybody know if it is safe to flat tow (all four wheels down) an N600 over long distances with no damage to the transmission? We'd like to pull it behind our RV. I've read recent articles that claim some cars suffer transmission damage because transmission oil doesn't lube the gears and things overheat while being towed. I'm wondering if towing the N600 with transmission in neutral would be safe. Thanks. John 
 
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